My argument for incumbents is they already have a large user...
My argument for incumbents is they already have a large userbase that's familiar with them, and they have an existing source of free cashflow unlike the pure-EV plays which means they're less risky, considering how bloated the pure-plays are because they're valued like "it's gonna be the next Tesla!" Reminder,$Tesla (TSLA.US)$IPOed at only $1B. Meanwhile,$Rivian Automotive (RIVN.US)$/$Lucid Group (LCID.US)$were at one point $100B companies despite having nothing to back it up. Consider the following: Ford has a fcf of +$9.6B and a cap of $60B. Lucid has a fcf of -$2.4B and a cap of $27B (they seem to have difficulty living up to their promises as well). Rivian has fcf of -$5B and a cap of $27B although $15B of that is cash. My problem is, why would I invest in Lucid or Rivian when I know Ford not only has much better fcf and userbase, but isn't trading at ridiculous multiples like the other 2. It's all risk and very little reward. What's more likely,$Ford Motor (F.US)$doubling in value, or Rivian/Lucid catching up to Ford's capacity without going bankrupt?
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boardndahouse18 : I agree with you on that point
Brandony OP boardndahouse18 : hiahia