number one regionals in particular make a lot of money from refinancing a lot of money with interest rates on the 30 year at 7% right around there there's not a lot of refinancing taking place number one number two Banks also make a lot of money on new home purchases same thing with interest rates stuck where they are and actually trending up and all you have to do is look at the 10-year there's not a lot of new home purchases being done you've had home builders announced lackluster for guidance and that's why their stocks really got crucified in the past couple of weeks and the ETF nail and a i l which holds a lot of home builders also got hammered, no pun intended.