Tesla has started offeringlease buyouts on all its vehicles, allowing customers who lease a Tesla to purchase their vehicle at the end of the lease term. But this represents apullbackfrom its previousautonomous vehicle ambitions.
In yet another end-of-week release of Tesla news, Tesla has updated its webpage forlease-end optionsto describe a new option for Tesla leasers: the ability to purchase your car at the end of your lease term.
The new policy applies to all of Tesla's vehicles, including Cybertruck, Model S, Model 3, Model X and Model Y, as of today, Nov 27, 2024 (though not in Iowa or Louisiana). There is a USD350 purchase fee, and third-party dealerships are allowed to purchase the vehicles.
Many other companies offer something similar, with owners treating the lease as somewhat of a "trial term" before purchasing the vehicle. There are also potential financial benefits – for example, leasingmakes it easier to get the US EV tax credit, and as a result some companies that don't qualify for the purchase credit have created unique insta-buyout lease options to make use of this exception.
But Tesla hasn't offered this option for some time. Ever since theModel 3 started leasing,Teslasaid that it would not allow lease buyouts at the end of the term, and instead that it wouldretain ownershipof the vehicles and put them into work in amassive robotaxi fleet, taking advantage of Tesla's Full Self-Driving technology.
But that didn't just apply to the Model 3, asTesla ended lease buyouts for all models in 2022, after having previously offered them on Model S/X. This happened during a strange period in the new vehicle market, with lots of vehicles experiencing price spikes due to COVID-related supply disruptions, but also falls in line with Tesla's previous ambitions and statements about wanting to retain vehicles for an autonomous robotaxi fleet.
Needless to say, thishasn't panned outexactly as Teslamight have hoped. Tesla'sFull Self-Drivingcapability, despite beingpromised "next year' every year for almost the last decade, isnot yet able to fully drive the car without a driver.
So this change could represent apullbackfor Tesla'sautonomous vehicle ambitions. Musk has said in the past thatits vehicles would become appreciating assetsdue to their ability to be used asautonomous robotaxis. The theory goes, you could send out your car to pick up passengers and drive them around, making you money on the side when you aren't otherwise using the vehicle.
Because of this, Musk even once said thatTesla would stop selling carsonce it solves autonomy, since it would be able to make more money providingautonomous ridesthan by selling cars.
Since then, Tesla haspivotedfrom talking about itsregular cars as potential robotaxisto offering a wholeseparate robotaxiproduct, in the form of theCybercab, which was unveiled last month. Though Musk also said during that unveiling that Tesla's other vehicles would still be usable as robotaxis (well,most of them anyway).
That product is supposed to come out withintwo years, which means any standard 3-year lease term that starts today would end after Tesla hassolved self driving– if you take their word for it. If that's the case, then starting a lease buyout option for cars leased today wouldn't make a lot of sense if you're confident that they could be used as robotaxis in less than three years.
So it's hard to think of this news as anything but apullbackin Tesla'sself-driving plans.If it's true that Tesla thinks vehicles can make more money as robotaxis, and it's true that Tesla thinks it will solve self-driving in the next two years, then why would Tesla suddenly start allowing buybacks that said it wouldn't do specifically because of those two things?
So – either Tesla thinks itcan't make much more money with robotaxis, or it thinks itcan't solve self-drivingbefore today's lease terms are up.
It has some work to do tocatch up, so we're not surprised to see more demand levers being pulled. Nevertheless, this change stilldoesn't jivewith Tesla's previous self-driving ambitions – and that's notable.
Tesla's introduction of lease buyouts comes amid a series of developments in its autonomous vehicle strategy.
In Apr,Muskhinted at aunique ownership model for Tesla's robotaxi fleet, which he described as a blend of Airbnb and Uber, with the potential name "Cybercab" reported during a first-quarter earnings call.
Later, in Sep, Musk asserted that traditional buses would become obsolete once Tesla's robotaxis, equipped with full self-driving capabilities, were operational. Heemphasized that these robotaxiswould offer point-to-point transportation atcosts comparable to bus ticketsaccording to his statements on social media.
In Oct, Teslaunveiled the two-seater Cybercab, a dedicated robotaxi product, at an event in Los Angeles. The vehicle, expected to be priced under USD30,000, was showcased with its self-driving capabilities.
MARKET-TEST-DUMMY
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I mean that's pretty ingenious if you think k about it. Specially if fully implemented.
Forseen problems might be, your ride gets hacked. Or worse become a ransom situation. Technology is great. But with advancements in it you also start to discover new problems. Which is the continuous cycle. Drive for a better (fill in the blank here).
People are truly amazing. Can't wait for the system to catch up and blast the ones who do wrong. Right now people get away with stuff because of lack of getting caught. With AI advancing at a crazy rate. Hopefully we will end up in a brighter future with less crime. With more cameras everywhere now more than ever. There won't be anywhere to hide. Less privacy to come also though. Preying for an abundant calm world for the future.
Still, thanks for the post. I found it informing and thought provoking. Will be looking for more of their robotaxi stuff and more of your posts.
Just a thought that just hit me. Will this be more control from a government aspect later? Travel becoming more expensive. The more autonomous vehicles on the road sharing information, are you going to be seen as the liability? Forcing you out of owning due to costs like insurance. Just a thought. They say driving is a privilege. They also say that your privileges/rights have been slowly taken from you.
MonkeyGee
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it's because the cars are so bad that even the maker doesn't want it back. Meanwhile, thousands of miles overseas multiple EV companies are going live with robotaxi.
bullrider_21
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I doubt the costs are as low as Musk claims. If the ride costs as low as a bus fare, drivers can't earn much and I doubt that they want to sign up.
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MonkeyGee
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That could be said for all cars. They all could be improved upon. So if they solve the bad for environment issue. Build better, more advanced infrastructure. Which is needed anyway. Like energy can be created using a stator or magnetic field and people are always traveling. Why not use the vehicles to offset the energy consumption or at least add back to the grid. With the induction charging they have available also. My theory is simple. When being taught electricity, your learning a system. Their system. Yes, some of it will make sense to you when learning. The real advancements IMO are when someone thinks outside the box. I still have plans for a generator that uses no fuel for say. It requires movement same as any other form of energy. I have faith that the knowledge is there and/or coming soon. If we could get past the selfishness and greed as a whole with all the available ways to communicate, we could do amazing things!
As for the stock. I play both ways and enjoy the movement. Look forward to their advancements and progress with their continued attempts to push the envelope.
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MARKET-TEST-DUMMY
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Clarification, I don't short stocks. But I instead take advantage of options and their tickers cycles when available.
MARKET-TEST-DUMMY : I mean that's pretty ingenious if you think k about it. Specially if fully implemented.
Forseen problems might be, your ride gets hacked. Or worse become a ransom situation. Technology is great. But with advancements in it you also start to discover new problems. Which is the continuous cycle. Drive for a better (fill in the blank here).
People are truly amazing. Can't wait for the system to catch up and blast the ones who do wrong. Right now people get away with stuff because of lack of getting caught. With AI advancing at a crazy rate. Hopefully we will end up in a brighter future with less crime. With more cameras everywhere now more than ever. There won't be anywhere to hide. Less privacy to come also though. Preying for an abundant calm world for the future.
Still, thanks for the post. I found it informing and thought provoking. Will be looking for more of their robotaxi stuff and more of your posts.
Just a thought that just hit me. Will this be more control from a government aspect later? Travel becoming more expensive. The more autonomous vehicles on the road sharing information, are you going to be seen as the liability? Forcing you out of owning due to costs like insurance. Just a thought. They say driving is a privilege. They also say that your privileges/rights have been slowly taken from you.
bullrider_21 OP MARKET-TEST-DUMMY : np. Glad you enjoyed my posts.
Certainly, getting hacked will be a problem. It would be bad for those depending on ride-hailing for a living.
MonkeyGee : it's because the cars are so bad that even the maker doesn't want it back. Meanwhile, thousands of miles overseas multiple EV companies are going live with robotaxi.
MARKET-TEST-DUMMY MARKET-TEST-DUMMY : Owning the cab is an interesting concept. Will profit outweigh wear and tear?
bullrider_21 OP MARKET-TEST-DUMMY : I doubt the costs are as low as Musk claims. If the ride costs as low as a bus fare, drivers can't earn much and I doubt that they want to sign up.
MARKET-TEST-DUMMY MonkeyGee : That could be said for all cars. They all could be improved upon. So if they solve the bad for environment issue. Build better, more advanced infrastructure. Which is needed anyway. Like energy can be created using a stator or magnetic field and people are always traveling. Why not use the vehicles to offset the energy consumption or at least add back to the grid. With the induction charging they have available also. My theory is simple. When being taught electricity, your learning a system. Their system. Yes, some of it will make sense to you when learning. The real advancements IMO are when someone thinks outside the box. I still have plans for a generator that uses no fuel for say. It requires movement same as any other form of energy. I have faith that the knowledge is there and/or coming soon. If we could get past the selfishness and greed as a whole with all the available ways to communicate, we could do amazing things!
As for the stock. I play both ways and enjoy the movement. Look forward to their advancements and progress with their continued attempts to push the envelope.
MARKET-TEST-DUMMY MARKET-TEST-DUMMY : Clarification, I don't short stocks. But I instead take advantage of options and their tickers cycles when available.