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In Tech Talks, the Tesla AI chief explains why self-driving cars do not need lidar.
By Ben Dickson - June 28, 2021
Immediately after, the strong Tesla criticism from 9 out of 10 readers is all about Tesla's technology.
Most Japanese people are simply enchanted by the illusion of tesla.
Do you know that the head of Dojo has left Tesla? Because he couldn't realize Elon Musk's delusion.
References
"Dojo," the supercomputer of Tesla, the head of the project retires, a blow to self-driving technology - Sources.
What a supercomputer can achieve is countably infinite creations that can be approximated from a finite number of elements. The representatives of countably infinite sets are integers or rational numbers. More specifically, a supercomputer can defeat Shogi master, Sota Fujii, because the Shogi board consists of 'finite' 81 squares. Even without a supercomputer, one can efficiently track all 'countably infinite' patterns of 81 and find ways to defeat the master. Furthermore, the reason why a supercomputer can create new drugs much faster than humans is that by combining a 'finite' number of existing drugs or 'finite times' of chemical reactions that alter molecular structures, it can extract successful new drugs. Even with a supercomputer, it cannot find 'unknown new drugs' other than those obtained by changing the molecular structure of existing drugs. In contrast, this possibility remains with humans.
Even a supercomputer cannot come close to creations consisting of uncountably infinite elements. The representatives of uncountably infinite sets are real numbers.
The supercomputer Dojo collects vast amounts of information, develops advanced algorithms, and avoids traffic accidents.
Such a thing can never be achieved. The reason is also clear. Accidents do not happen from a finite or countably infinite number of causes. In general, an algorithm is simply an operation that repeats 'yes' and 'no' a finite number of times. Can accidents be prevented by that?
In brief, aiming at the car you are riding,
- A mysterious bird flying at a speed of 1000 meters per second from beyond the fog
- A car from the opposite lane suddenly swerving out and dashing towards you
Can such crises be determined from a finite or countably infinite number of causes?
First of all, it is unclear what objects are dashing towards your car. A mysterious bird, a car, a rock, a meteor, or perhaps an unknown object? In that case, at what speed are they dashing towards you? From which direction and what kind of curve are they dashing towards you?
Accidents happen unexpectedly. Even with a supercomputer, processing information in binary form of 0s and 1s, it is impossible to approximate events determined by uncountably infinite elements from the nose. Even if Dojo analyzes footage of hundreds of millions of traffic accidents, accidents are all unique and no two accidents are the same.
Currently, the finest masterpiece that supercomputers can track might be weather forecasts or earthquake predictions, right? By training supercomputers with vast amounts of information (simply a 'finite number' of data is key), they might be able to accurately predict tomorrow's weather when similar incidents occur. Professor Shunji Murai of the University of Tokyo mentions that using GPS data from about 1300 electronic reference points set up by the Geospatial Information Authority of Japan, they can predict earthquakes with 70% accuracy by comprehensively analyzing main indicators such as weekly abnormal movements, long-term uplifts/subsidence, and horizontal movements in all directions (just a 'finite number' of indicators are key).
References
"MEGA Earthquake Forecast with Increased Accuracy - 4 Zones to Be Cautious of in 2023"
And above all, why is Elon Musk purchasing a large amount of LiDAR towards the realization of Robo-Taxi, while boasting that Tesla can achieve fully autonomous driving with just cameras?
References
"Why is Tesla the biggest customer of LiDAR manufacturers even though 'LiDAR is what idiots do'?"
"Tesla's Purchase of LiDAR Exposed! Labeling LiDAR as 'Crutch of Self-Driving'"
そして、どうしてイーロン・マスクは、ロボ・タクシー事行を米国ではなくて、中国とヨーロッパで始めると嘯くのでしょうか？
参考文献
「テスラ、FSD（完全自動運転）を欧州・中国で展開。2025年初頭までに」
その理由も明白です。
アメリカ合衆国の各州には運転免許センターに相当する施設として「Department of Motor Vehicles（DMV）」があります。DMVは公道の運転許可や運転免許証の更新を管理しています。自動運転に関連する資格試験についても「公文書」として公開しています。
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Autonomous Vehicle Testing Permit Holders
This is a list of companies holding autonomous vehicle testing permits.
This document contains
- Permits Holders (Testing with a driver)
- Permits Holders (Driverless Testing)
- Permits Holders (Deployment)
3 categories:
The term "former" refers to companies that have passed the qualification test for test driving on public roads with a driver present, the "middle" refers to companies that have passed the qualification test for test driving on public roads without a driver present, and the "latter" applies to both the former two, referring to companies or organizations involved in the development of self-driving cars and conducting test drives on public roads. Companies with the permit of the "latter" are approved to operate taxi services as commercial services.
"Permits Holders (Testing with a driver)" ➡ includes the name of Tesla.
(Companies authorized to test drive on public roads with a driver present) includes the name of Tesla.
Companies authorized to test drive on public roads with a driver present, including the name of Tesla.
"Permits Holders (Driverless Testing)" ➡ does not include the name of Tesla.
(Companies authorized to test drive on public roads without a driver present) does not include the name of Tesla.
"Permits Holders (Deployment)" ➡ does not include the name of Tesla.
(Companies authorized to operate taxi services as commercial services) does not include the name of Tesla.
After all, the names of the two other parties do not include the company of tesla.
In other words, Elon Musk is just making hurried excuses to distract from the announcement of the Robo Taxi business on October 10.
Implementing FSD in China and Europe.
and it is clear that the reason why the DMV still does not allow tesla vehicles to test drive on public roads at self-driving level 4 (= without a driver) is that they consider letting tesla cars with only immature self-driving level 2 technology go for test drives.
Danger.
is the unequivocal reality i.e. they determine and are certain that this is what it is.
And, with good reason, Tesla took this qualification exam on September 12, 2023, but the DMV
has found tesla to be unqualified.
Is having a stigma.
The evidence that Tesla failed the qualification test by the DMV is
References
"Tesla's self-driving taxi, which Dawn Project has experienced, is several years behind Waymo"
In particular, this sentence in the document
"Tesla has not started testing unmanned driving with no one in the driver's seat because the software is not ready."
At 50 seconds in the video of the public advertisement about Tesla's fully automatic driving free trial by The Dawn Project
Tesla failed to pass the DMV qualification exam on September 12, 2023.
Tesla stock price may move up or down by 20% on the announcement date of Robo Taxi, with X-Day set for October 10.
Will the 'Cyber Cab' have an unprecedented impact?
In particular, a sentence in this document
Tesla vehicles with a clearly different set of sensors on the roof are frequently seen. The vehicles seem to be Model 3, but speculation suggests they may be prototype vehicles for Cyber Cab. According to the California Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV),
Tesla has obtained a driver-assisted on-road driving license.
However,
"There is no driving record for 2023.
It is stated.
Tesla, which failed the qualification test for unmanned test driving on public roads in the USA
Can Tesla pass the qualification test for unmanned test driving on public roads in China and Europe?
It is unlikely that dangerous vehicles that could potentially take human lives will be left unchecked in any country.
What I want to strongly argue is,
Elon Musk is boasting as if he can realize the robot taxi business right now,
After passing the qualification test that allows testing on public roads using level 4 self-driving cars (unmanned) by the DMV, one should declare it as such.
That's what it means.
If you take Elon Musk's arbitrary claims seriously, you will have a bad time. I conclude that both the Japanese media and Japanese investors in Tesla are overestimating Elon Musk and Tesla, detached from reality.
Both Waymo led by Google and Cruise led by GM are allowed to operate unmanned taxi services because they passed the qualification test of the DMV. The reason Cruise's name is not mentioned in the DMV documents after the two is due to California's immediate suspension of Cruise's autonomous vehicle deployment and unmanned driving test permits.
California has immediately suspended Cruise's autonomous vehicle deployment and unmanned driving test permits.
is the cause.
It is often misunderstood, but both Waymo and Cruise
Have you manufactured a car that has been certified as self-driving level 3 or self-driving level 4? It is only as part of a "test drive".
It is just approved for a test drive at self-driving level 4 on public roads.
Only public road test drives at self-driving level 4 are approved.
That's all.
According to international standards, self-driving level 3 has been certified, even though the world is wide.
- Honda's "Legend" (limited to 100 units)
- Mercedes-Benz flagship models "S-Class" and sedan "EQS" (world's first mass-produced sales)
There are only self-driving level 4 or higher approved vehicles in existence.
Waymo, led by Google, Cruise, led by GM, Zoox, led by Amazon, have all passed the qualification test to operate on public roads at self-driving level 4 (no driver required). It is essential to pay attention to the danger posed by Tesla, which has not even passed this qualification test.
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おにんにん : Can the legendary bird Lapras be avoided by human driving?
Self-driving cars are the ultimate goal, and with the increasing precision of driving assistance, we hope that it will change the automobile society for the better in the future. I have high hopes and investments in tesla as they strive towards this challenging goal. Just like in the field of medicine, where progress has been made through numerous sacrifices and failures to reach our current medical standards.
While Tesla may face detours and setbacks, I will continue to support and cheer for them.
pinkotu : Isn't it amazing that I, who couldn't create auto manufacturers, made it? Can I make it? Accidents involving personal injury from level 3 onwards will be the responsibility of the manufacturers, so Honda's self-driving cars have such strict limitations that it is doubtful if they can be called self-driving. Does everyone know that if you hit someone, it's the responsibility of the auto manufacturers? Is it okay in a litigious country if you hit 5 or 6 people?
pinkotu : Unable to lower the raised fist.
Worst.
But who cares. As long as it's profitable.
181418060 OP pinkotu : This is the opinion of many people who want to exaggerate tesla. Honda Legend is approved by the Ministry of Land, Infrastructure, Transport and Tourism in japan, as well as California and Nevada in american. It should be noted that self-driving level 3 is an international standard. Are you aware that tesla only has self-driving level 2?
181418060 OP 181418060 OP : It is Japan's Ministry of Land, Infrastructure, Transport and Tourism, as well as California and Nevada in the United States, that have certified the Honda Legend as a level 3 self-driving cars. ☚Correction
181418060 OP pinkotu : Indeed, Honda may have limited the number of units sold to 100 due to the fear of significant damages from personal accidents. However, following Honda, Mercedes, which has been certified at self-driving level 3, is mass-produced for sale. Mercedes Benz is confident that accidents will not occur during self-driving. The approval of Mercedes Benz's level 3 self-driving has been granted by the German Federal Motor Transport Authority (KBA) as well as the states of California and Nevada in the american.
pinkotu 181418060 OP : The reason that Honda is not releasing self-driving cars is that they need to consider the liability, so they cannot operate in fairly severe conditions, and they are not yet seriously considering selling them. I think Mercedes is in the same situation. Even if they are mass-produced, if there are restrictions, it will instead question the quality of the manufacturers. It's a matter of national and racial differences. I love these two manufacturers for being the world's first: Airbags, ABS, Traction Control, Cruise Control. Honda and Mercedes are also selling self-driving cars, but I wonder if the general public is unaware of this?
pinkotu 181418060 OP : As you can see from my other posts, traditional auto manufacturers like veru inc have no commercial movement regarding self-driving cars, if any, it's for publicity purposes. Even Honda's 100 units are for publicity. There are too many restrictions and limited usage in terms of the level of self-driving technology. It must be difficult to prevent accidents. Considering that not all auto manufacturers worldwide can create them! Can you understand that...? Can't be released to the market?