derbypro33 OP affable Eagle_2095 : If people listened to all the haters as yourself,  then no company would ever get off the ground!  when you start a multi billion dollar company from the ground up ,then your opinion might have some value!

derbypro33 OP FANCY PANTS : thats your logic man?  all engineering, science ect. ride the backs of others before.  that's how we progress!  no company comes out the gates making billions!  if this company revolts you so. just leave. let the ones who have faith succeed!

derbypro33 OP affable Eagle_2095 : lol. hit a nerve with the name calling i see!  you work at gm?  big deal. so do thousands of other people.   they wouldn't hire you? awww.  so sad.  while you stand on your assebly line and do your part i actually have to reverse engineer gm s shit to repair it. not just a tin oart but the entire automobile.    so lets compare qualifications .....

derbypro33 OP Nyc_FrosFbm : lol. im telling ya man.  plus. didn't gm just get a bailout yrs ago.....

derbypro33 OP : so when you bought the originally did you believe it to be a bad investment?

derbypro33 OP : thank you both for your response.   it is very hard to get a real answer on here sometimes.   lol