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Microsoft Q1 2024 Earnings Call Transcript

Microsoft Q1 2024 Earnings Call Transcript

微软 2024 年第一季度财报电话会议记录
moomoo资讯 ·  2023/10/24 22:14  · 电话会议

Company Management

公司管理

Amy Hood - EVP & CFO

Brett Iversen - VP, IR

Satya Nadella - Chairman & CEO

Amy Hood-执行副总裁兼首席财务官

Brett Iversen-投资者关系副总裁

萨蒂亚·纳德拉——董事长兼首席执行官

Analysts

分析师

Bradley Sills - Bank of America

Brent Bracelin - Piper Sandler

Gregg Moskowitz - Mizuho

Karl Keirstead - UBS

Keith Weiss - Morgan Stanley

Mark Moerdler - Bernstein Research.

Raimo Lenschow - Barclays

Bradley Sills-美国银行

Brent Bracelin-Piper Sandler

Gregg Moskowitz-Mizuho

Karl Keirstead-UBS

Keith Weiss-摩根士丹利

Mark Moerdler-伯恩斯坦研究。

Raimo Lenschow-Barclays

Keith Weiss

基思·魏斯

Thank you for taking the question and very nice quarter. The pace of innovation you guys have been putting out has been pretty amazing. And the new products garnering traction probably faster than we've expected on our side of the equation. But we're also working in an overall spending environment, that remains volatile, and I think investors are getting more concerned on it.

感谢你回答这个问题,非常不错的季度。你们的创新步伐非常惊人。而且,新产品获得关注的速度可能比我们预期的要快。但是,我们也在总体支出环境中工作,这种环境仍然动荡不定,我认为投资者对此越来越担忧。

So two questions on this, one, based on sort of the new products and the innovation, do you think you guys can sustain the type of commercial growth that we saw in Q1 as we go through the year or is the environment too tricky for that? And then when it relates to investment, Amy, you've been able to keep overall OpEx growth very low, and it was very low this quarter. At some point, should we be thinking about a return to a more aggressive investment behind all this product innovation?

因此,关于这个问题有两个问题,第一,基于某种新产品和创新,你认为你们能否在今年第一季度维持我们在第一季度看到的那种商业增长,还是环境太棘手了?然后,在投资方面,艾米,你已经能够将总体运营支出增长保持在非常低的水平,而本季度的总体运营支出增长非常低。在某个时候,我们是否应该考虑在所有这些产品创新背后恢复更积极的投资?

Satya Nadella

萨蒂亚·纳德拉

Maybe I can start, Keith, and Amy you can add to it. Overall there are multiple things, Keith, they're all happening obviously simultaneously. If you just take Azure and try to characterize, where's the growth for Azure coming from or what sort of drivers for Azure numbers, there are three things all happening in parallel. Like, for example, take cloud migrations. A good reminder of where we are and even the core cloud migration story is the new Oracle announcement.

也许我可以开始,Keith 和 Amy 你可以加进去。总的来说,有多件事,Keith,它们显然都是同时发生的。如果你只是以 Azure 为例,尝试描述一下 Azure 的增长来自哪里,或者Azure数字的驱动因素是什么,那么有三件事是并行发生的。例如,以云迁移为例。Oracle的新公告很好地提醒了我们的现状,甚至是核心的云迁移故事。

Once we announced that the Oracle databases are going to be available on Azure, we saw a bunch of unlock from new customers who have significant Oracle estates that have not yet moved to the cloud because they needed to rendezvous with the rest of the app estate in one single cloud. And so we're excited about that. So in some sense, even the financial services sector, for example, is a good place where there's a lot of Oracle that still needs to move to the cloud.

当我们宣布Oracle数据库将在Azure上线后,我们看到了大量新客户的解锁,这些客户拥有大量Oracle资产,但尚未迁移到云端,因为他们需要在一个云中与其他应用程序资产会合。因此,我们对此感到兴奋。因此,从某种意义上说,例如,即使是金融服务行业,也是许多甲骨文仍需要迁移到云端的好地方。

The second thing, of course, is the workloads start, then workloads get optimized, and then new workloads start, and that cycle continues. We'll lap some of those optimization cycles that were fairly extreme perhaps in the second half of our fiscal. And the third thing is, for us, that's unique and different is new workload starts around AI. Given our leadership position, we are seeing complete new projects start, which are AI projects. And as you know, AI projects are not just about AI meters, they have lots of other cloud meters as well. So that sort of gives you one side of what's happening in terms of enterprise.

当然,第二件事是工作负载开始,然后工作负载得到优化,然后开始新的工作负载,这个周期还在继续。我们将经历一些可能在我们财年的下半年相当极端的优化周期。第三件事是,对我们来说,这是独一无二的,不同的是围绕人工智能开始了新的工作负载。鉴于我们的领导地位,我们正在看到全新的项目启动,即人工智能项目。如你所知,人工智能项目不仅仅是关于人工智能仪表,还有很多其他云计。因此,这可以让你了解企业方面正在发生的事情的一面。

The other piece is on the SaaS side, obviously, again, this is a new product that's going to go through the enterprise adoption cycle. The results around productivity, which we demonstrated with GitHub Copilot, is what's giving us good confidence and our customers, more importantly, good confidence around what these products represent in terms of value. And so we are in the very early innings there, and so we look forward to seeing the traction for these products going forward.

另一部分在SaaS方面,显然,再说一遍,这是一款将经历企业采用周期的新产品。我们在GitHub Copilot上展示的生产力方面的结果使我们充满信心,更重要的是,我们的客户对这些产品在价值方面所代表的东西充满信心。因此,我们现在还处于初期阶段,因此我们期待看到这些产品在未来获得吸引力。

Amy Hood

艾米胡德

Keith, maybe just a few things to add and then I'll talk a little bit about the operating leverage, which is the second part of your question. In general, we saw very consistent execution from Q4 to Q1, and that's what we're talking about into Q2. I think that speaks to our value prop, which is where Satya went. It speaks to making sure that customers are getting a very quick return on value, real productivity improvement, real savings, so that when we're asking at renewal or talking about E5 upgrades or talking about AI services, that those come with real promises of high-value scenarios. And so I think that is an important piece as you think about, stability and commercial demand.

Keith,也许只需要补充几点然后我会谈一谈运营杠杆,这是你问题的第二部分。总的来说,从第四季度到第一季度,我们的执行非常稳定,这就是我们在第二季度所说的。我认为这说明了我们的价值主张,这就是 Satya 的去向。它说要确保客户获得非常快的价值回报、真正的生产率提高、真正的节省,因此,当我们要求续订、谈论E5升级或谈论人工智能服务时,这些服务会带来高价值场景的真正承诺。因此,我认为,正如你所想的那样,稳定性和商业需求是一个重要的部分。

And then if you think about the nature of your question, it was partially why I talked about in my full-year guidance that, now, even with the addition of Activision and purchase accounting impacts, and integration impacts, we still feel confident we can deliver consistent operating margins to last year. And it speaks to, I think, some of the improvements, we're making in Azure and even in Microsoft 365 gross margins, even in the core of the commercial cloud.

然后,如果你考虑一下你的问题的性质,这就是我在全年指导中谈到的部分原因,即现在,即使增加了动视和购买会计影响以及整合影响,我们仍然有信心实现与去年一样稳定的营业利润率。我认为,这说明了我们在Azure甚至Microsoft 365的毛利率方面所做的一些改进,即使在商业云的核心也是如此。

It speaks to the pace at which we are delivering AI revenue with the increasing cost expense and capital investment ahead with the demand we see. And, although you're right, our operating expense comparables in H2 get more challenging than in H1, we're really focused on making sure that every dollar we put and commit is back to the priorities we talked about, which is commercial cloud leadership and leading the AI wave. And so I think that focus is really helping on both execution and leverage.

它说明了我们实现人工智能收入的步伐,随着我们看到的需求,成本支出和资本投资不断增加。而且,尽管你说得对,但我们在下半年的运营支出比上半年更具挑战性,但我们真正专注于确保我们投入和投入的每一美元都能回到我们所说的优先事项上,即商业云的领导地位和引领人工智能浪潮。因此,我认为这种关注确实有助于执行和杠杆作用。

Keith Weiss

基思·魏斯

Excellent. Thank you, guys.

太棒了。谢谢你们,伙计们。

Brett Iversen

布雷特·艾弗森

Thanks, Keith. Joe, next question, please.

谢谢,Keith。Joe,请问下一个问题。

Mark Moerdler

Mark Moerdler

Thank you very much and congratulations on a really strong quarter. AI has been far stronger than expected, beat your guidance for Azure this quarter. And while you discussed higher utilization and more GPUs have helped, has the fact that Microsoft has a full AI devstack Copilot reference architecture and plugin architecture bidding a meaningful factor, not just from a revenue perspective, but also even potentially from a margin perspective? In addition, can you give us any color on whether Azure GPU is predominantly model training or are we seeing a lot of inferencing yet from clients? Thanks.

非常感谢,也祝贺本季度表现非常强劲。人工智能远强于预期,超过了你对本季度Azure的预期。尽管你讨论了更高的利用率和更多的 GPU 有所帮助,但微软拥有完整的 AI devstack Copilot 参考架构和插件架构竞价这一事实是否是一个有意义的因素,不仅从收入的角度来看,甚至从利润角度来看也是如此?此外,你能否告诉我们 Azure GPU 主要是模型训练,还是我们从客户那里看到了很多推论?谢谢。

Satya Nadella

萨蒂亚·纳德拉

No. Thank you for the question, Mark. Yeah, it is true that we have -- the approach we have taken is a full stack approach all the way from whether it's ChatGPT or Bing Chat or all our Copilots, all share the same model. So in some sense, one of the things that we do have is very, very high leverage of the one model that we used -- which we trained, and then the one model that we are doing inferencing at scale. And that advantage sort of trickles down all the way to both utilization internally, utilization of third parties, and also over time, you can see the sort of stack optimization all the way to the silicon because the abstraction layer to which the developers are riding is much higher up than low-level kernels if you will.

不是。谢谢你的提问,马克。是的,我们确实有 —— 我们采取的方法是全栈方法,无论是 ChatGPT、Bing Chat 还是我们所有的 Copilots,都共享相同的模型。因此,从某种意义上说,我们所拥有的一件事就是我们使用的模型的杠杆率非常高—— 我们训练了这个模型,然后是我们正在大规模推理的一个模型。这种优势会一直延伸到内部利用率、第三方的利用率,以及随着时间的推移,你可以看到那种堆栈优化一直到芯片,因为如果你愿意的话,开发人员所处的抽象层比低级内核高得多。

So, therefore, I think there is a fundamental approach we took, which was a technical approach of saying we'll have Copilots and Copilot stack all available. That doesn't mean we don't have people doing training for open source models or proprietary models. We also have a bunch of open source models. We have a bunch of fine-tuning happening, a bunch of RLHF happening. So there's all kinds of ways people use it. But the thing is, we have scale leverage of one large model that was trained and one large model that's being used for inference across all our first-party SaaS apps, as well as our API in our Azure AI service…

因此,我认为我们采取了一种基本的方法,那就是说我们将有Copilots和Copilot堆栈全部可用的技术方法。这并不意味着我们没有人为开源模型或专有模型进行培训。我们还有很多开源模型。我们正在进行大量微调,一大堆RLHF正在发生。因此,人们有各种各样的使用方式。但问题是,我们有一个经过训练的大型模型和一个用于推理所有第一方 SaaS 应用程序的大型模型,以及我们的 Azure AI 服务中的 API 的规模...

Amy Hood

艾米胡德

And the reason, Mark, that's important is that it means, even beyond the point Satya made is that, when it comes to our ability to leverage the infrastructure that we're building out, we don't really have a preference in terms of how people are utilizing that infrastructure, whether it's through all the means that Satya mentioned. It gives us a good opportunity to see quick conversion into revenue.

而且,马克,这之所以重要,是因为这意味着,即使超出萨蒂亚所说的观点,在我们利用我们正在建设的基础设施的能力方面,无论是通过萨蒂亚提到的所有手段,我们对人们如何利用该基础设施都没有真正的偏好。它为我们提供了一个很好的机会,可以看到快速转化为收入。

Satya Nadella

萨蒂亚·纳德拉

Yeah. I mean, one other thing I'd just add to perhaps Mark's question as well as Keith's is, this platform transition, I think is very important for us to be very disciplined on both. I'll call our tech stack as well as our capital spend all to be concentrated. The lesson learned from the cloud side is -- we're not running a conglomerate of different businesses, it's all one tech stack up and down Microsoft's portfolio, and that, I think, is going to be very important because that discipline, given what the spend like -- it will look like for this AI transition any business that's not disciplined about their capital spend accruing across all their businesses could run into trouble.

是的。我的意思是,除了马克的问题和基思的问题之外,我还要补充一件事是,我认为这种平台过渡对我们来说非常重要,要在这两个问题上都保持纪律。我称我们的技术堆栈和资本支出都要集中精力。从云端吸取的教训是 —— 我们经营的不是一个由不同业务组成的企业集团,而是微软投资组合上下的一个技术堆栈,我认为这将非常重要,因为考虑到支出的情况,这种纪律——在这次人工智能转型中,任何对所有业务累积的资本支出不遵守纪律的企业都可能遇到麻烦。

Mark Moerdler

Mark Moerdler

Extremely helpful. Thank you so much.

非常有帮助。非常感谢。

Brett Iversen

布雷特·艾弗森

Thanks, Mark. Joe, next question, please.

谢谢,马克。Joe,请问下一个问题。

Brent Thill

布伦特·蒂尔

Thanks, Amy. Good to see the 12% growth. Many investors are asking, can you sustain double-digit growth, especially with a stronger AI boost coming in the next several quarters?

谢谢,艾米。很高兴看到12%的增长。许多投资者问,你能否维持两位数的增长,尤其是在未来几个季度人工智能将得到更大推动的情况下?

Amy Hood

艾米胡德

As I said, Q1 was a strong start to the year, Q2 certainly implies that. We've talked about stability for Azure into the second half of the year looking at and in line with what we're seeing for Q2. And so I think we feel good about our ability to execute, but more importantly, our ability to continue to take share.

正如我所说,第一季度是今年的良好开端,第二季度无疑暗示了这一点。我们已经讨论了Azure在下半年的稳定性,展望第二季度的稳定性,并与之一致。因此,我认为我们对自己的执行能力感觉良好,但更重要的是,我们能够继续分享自己的份额。

Brett Iversen

布雷特·艾弗森

Thanks, Brent. Joe, next question, please.

谢谢,布伦特。Joe,请问下一个问题。

Raimo Lenschow

Raimo Lenschow

Thank you. You sound very optimistic about the opportunity in the office space with Copilot coming out now very soon. Can you speak a little bit about -- what you're seeing in the customer base that tested this already in terms of how excited they were -- the special features there, and what does it mean in terms of adoption curve for that going forward once you go GA on 1st of November? Thank you.

谢谢。随着Copilot即将问世,你听起来对办公空间的机会非常乐观。你能否谈一谈 —— 就他们的兴奋程度而言,你在已经测试过这个功能的客户群中看到了什么 —— 那里的特殊功能,以及你在 11 月 1 日正式上市后在未来的采用曲线方面意味着什么?谢谢。

Satya Nadella

萨蒂亚·纳德拉

No. Thanks. The question, Ramo, the good news is two-fold, one is the fact that, what is 40% of the Fortune 100 are already in the preview and are using the product and I think you all have also done lots of checks and the feedback is very, very positive. And, in fact, the interesting thing is, it's not any one tool, right? Which is the feedback even sort of is very clear that it's the all up.

不是。谢谢。问题是,Ramo,好消息是双重的,一是这样一个事实,即财富100强中有40%已经进入预览版并且正在使用该产品,我想你们也做了很多检查,反馈非常非常积极。而且,事实上,有趣的是,它不是一个工具,对吧?反馈中哪个反馈都很清楚一切都准备好了。

You just keep hitting the Copilot button across every surface, right, whether it's in Word to create documents, in Excel to, do analysis, or PowerPoint or Outlook or Teams just like that. Clearly, the Teams meeting, which is an intelligent recap, it's not just a dumb transcript. It's like having a knowledge base of all your meetings that you can query and add to essentially the knowledge terms of your enterprise.

无论是在 Word 中创建文档、在 Excel 中进行分析,还是 PowerPoint、Outlook 还是 Teams 之类的 Teams,你都可以在每个表面上按下 Copilot 按钮,对。显然,Teams会议是一个明智的回顾,它不只是一个愚蠢的笔录。这就像拥有所有会议的知识库一样,您可以查询该知识库并将其添加到企业的知识术语中。

And so we are seeing broad usage across and the interesting thing is, by different functions, whether it's in finance or in sales by roles, we are seeing productivity gains like we saw with developers and GitHub Copilot. So that's the data. We are very excited about our Ignite conference, where we will talk a lot more about all of the use cases and what's -- where's the value and give more prescriptive guidance on how people can deploy.

因此,我们看到了广泛的用法,有趣的是,通过不同的职能,无论是财务还是按职位划分的销售,我们都看到了生产率的提高,就像我们在开发人员和GitHub Copilot上看到的那样。所以这就是数据。我们对我们的 Ignite 会议感到非常兴奋,届时我们将更多地讨论所有用例和内容 —— 价值在哪里,并就人们如何部署提供更具规范性的指导。

But so far so good, as far as the data is and the feedback is. And of course, this is an enterprise product, I mean, at the end of the day, we are grounded on enterprise cycle times in terms of adoption and ramp, and it's incrementally priced, so, therefore that all will apply still. But at least for something completely new to have this level of usage already and this level of excitement is something we're very, very pleased with.

但是就数据和反馈而言,到目前为止一切都很好。当然,这是一款企业产品,我的意思是,归根结底,我们在采用和升级方面以企业周期为基础,而且它是按增量定价的,因此,一切都将仍然适用。但是,至少对于一个全新的东西来说,已经有这样的使用水平了,而且这种兴奋程度是我们非常非常满意的。

Raimo Lenschow

Raimo Lenschow

Thank you.

谢谢。

Brett Iversen

布雷特·艾弗森

Thanks, Raimo. Joe, next question, please.

谢谢,Raimo。Joe,请问下一个问题。

Karl Keirstead

Karl Keirstead

Okay. Great. Thanks, Amy. Congrats on the 28% constant currency Azure growth, that's terrific. I wanted to press you a little bit on the outlook for Azure. You're obviously guiding to a 1 to 2 point decel in December and then stable thereafter. But why would it be stable? Why wouldn't it accelerate in the -- in the second half of your fiscal year, if the AI contribution is increasing as you bring on more GPU capacity? Is this a function of perhaps continued Core ex-AI Azure spend optimization, continuing or maybe even getting slightly worse? Why couldn't we see some upside in that Azure number? I know you're trying to be conservative, but I'd just love to understand it? Thanks so much.

好吧。太棒了。谢谢,艾米。恭喜Azure的固定货币增长了28%,这太棒了。我想稍微向你介绍一下 Azure 的前景。你显然将在 12 月下降到 1 到 2 个百分点,然后稳定下来。但是为什么它会稳定呢?如果随着GPU容量的增加,人工智能的贡献也在增加,为什么它不会在财年的下半年加速呢?这是否是继续进行Core ex-AI Azure支出优化、持续甚至可能稍微恶化的结果?为什么我们看不到那个 Azure 数字有一些上升空间?我知道你想保持保守,但我很想明白?非常感谢。

Amy Hood

艾米胡德

Thanks, Karl. A couple of things. As I talked about Q2 and then into H2. We've been very consistent that the optimization trends have been consistent for us through a couple of quarters now. Customers are going to continue to do that. It's an important part of running workloads that is not new. There obviously were some quarters where it was more accelerated, but that is a pattern that is and has been a fundamental part of having customers, both make new room for new workload adoption and continue to build new capabilities.

谢谢,卡尔。有几件事。当我谈到第二季度然后进入下半年时。我们一直非常一致地认为,在过去的几个季度中,我们的优化趋势一直保持一致。客户将继续这样做。这是运行非新工作负载的重要组成部分。显然,在某些地方,它的速度更快,但这种模式现在和现在都是吸引客户的基本组成部分,既为采用新的工作负载开辟了新的空间,又会继续构建新的能力。

And so I think that impact remains through the rest of the year, and my view is unchanged on that. And then of course, I think the key component has always been new workload starts. And at the scale we're talking about, being able to have stability in our Azure business, does mean that we will have a lot of new workload starts. And primarily we're expecting those to come from AI workloads. But AI workloads don't just use our AI services. They use data services and they use other things. And so that combination, I think, looking on a competitive basis, we feel good about our execution, we feel good about taking share and we feel good about consistent trends. And so I feel good about that guide and what it says about where we are on share.

因此,我认为这种影响将持续到今年余下的时间,我对此的看法没有改变。当然,我认为关键组成部分一直是新的工作负载启动。从我们所说的规模来看,能够在我们的 Azure 业务中保持稳定性确实意味着我们将有大量新的工作负载启动。我们主要期望它们来自人工智能工作负载。但是,人工智能工作负载不仅仅使用我们的 AI 服务。他们使用数据服务,他们使用其他东西。因此,我认为,从竞争的基础上看,这种组合,我们对自己的执行力感觉良好,对分享份额感觉良好,对持续的趋势我们感觉良好。因此,我对那份指南以及它所说的关于我们分享情况的内容感到满意。

Karl Keirstead

Karl Keirstead

Okay. Terrific. Thanks.

好吧。太棒了。谢谢。

Brett Iversen

布雷特·艾弗森

Thanks, Karl. Joe, next question, please.

谢谢,卡尔。Joe,请问下一个问题。

Bradley Sills

布拉德利·西尔斯

Wonderful. Thanks so much. Very impressive to see the Office 365 commercial seat growth hanging in here in that double digit range. It's very impressive just given the scale of that business. We think of Office as having such a dominant market position. Curious, how you think about the -- where that seat is coming from and how many more of those seats are out there to go get?

太棒了。非常感谢。看到Office 365商业座位的增长保持在两位数的区间内,这真是令人印象深刻。考虑到该业务的规模,这给人留下了深刻的印象。我们认为Office具有如此大的市场主导地位。好奇,你如何看待 —— 那个座位来自哪里,还有多少座位要去?

Amy Hood

艾米胡德

Thanks for that question, and maybe I'll take that Satya if you -- if you want to add. In general, our seat growth has -- it does come from all segments, but with particular strength in small and mid-sized businesses, as well as what we call the frontline worker opportunity. And that has been, I would say, looking back a number of quarters where the majority of our seat growth has gone. And while obviously, it slowed a bit to your point, I think the fact that we're still able to add seats at this level speaks to the broadening nature of what Microsoft 365 needs.

谢谢你的提问,如果你想补充的话,也许我会接受那个 Satya。总的来说,我们的席位增长确实来自所有细分市场,但中小型企业以及我们所谓的一线员工机会尤其强劲。我想说,回顾过去几个季度,我们的大部分席位增长都集中在了这些季度。尽管很明显,速度有所放缓,但我认为,我们仍然能够增加这个级别的席位这一事实说明了Microsoft 365需求的不断扩大。

It's more applicable to more people. And so I think many people have thought, oh my goodness, you've got a lot of customers already. And we look and say, how many people when you expand what Microsoft 365 means, whether it's the security or it means analytics or it means Teams, it means lots of things in an expanding definition. It applies to more types of workers. And frankly, the value is such, especially on the small business front, where it's to the point where I think people feel like it's a great way to spend even the spend money they have is -- this remains a pretty compelling offer.

它更适用于更多的人。所以我想很多人都在想,天啊,你已经有很多客户了。我们看着说,当你扩展 Microsoft 365 的含义时,有多少人,无论是安全性、分析还是团队意思,在不断扩大的定义中都意味着很多东西。它适用于更多类型的工人。坦率地说,它的价值是如此之大,尤其是在小型企业方面,我认为人们甚至觉得这是一种不错的消费方式 —— 这仍然是一个非常有吸引力的报价。

Bradley Sills

布拉德利·西尔斯

Thank you.

谢谢。

Brett Iversen

布雷特·艾弗森

Thanks, Brad. Joe, next question, please.

谢谢,布拉德。Joe,请问下一个问题。

Brent Bracelin

布伦特·布雷斯林

Thank you. Good afternoon. One thing that really stood out to me was the intelligent cloud segment operating margins. These came in, I think, at the highest level in six years, despite elevated AI investments. Was there a one-time tailwind here that helped? Or are you at the point where Azure has got economies of scale, where Microsoft could sustain high margins even with an ambitious AI investment cycle?

谢谢。下午好。真正令我印象深刻的一件事是智能云领域的营业利润率。我认为,尽管人工智能投资有所增加,但还是达到了六年来的最高水平。这里曾经有过的顺风有帮助吗?还是你正处于 Azure 实现规模经济的地步,即使有雄心勃勃的人工智能投资周期,微软也可以保持高利润?

Amy Hood

艾米胡德

You think -- thanks for that question. I think there are a couple things going on and I do -- I would say in particular, this was a very good leverage quarter in that segment. Number one, the Azure revenue growth and the stability we're seeing in it, absolutely is that help the operating leverage. The second component of that is in our core Azure business. The team continues to deliver thoughtful gross margin improvement across both technical decisions, software implementations. Our teams on the infrastructure build side have done really good work to deliver that, and so that's been helpful as well.

你想 —— 谢谢你的提问。我认为有几件事正在发生,我确实如此 —— 我想特别说,在这个细分市场中,这是一个非常不错的杠杆率季度。第一,Azure收入增长以及我们在其中看到的稳定性,绝对有助于提高运营杠杆作用。第二个组成部分是我们的核心 Azure 业务。该团队继续在技术决策和软件实施方面提供深思熟虑的毛利率改善。我们在基础设施建设方面的团队在实现这一目标方面做得非常出色,因此这也很有帮助。

And then, of course, on operating expenses, there's been a good focus on continuing even within that segment, to make sure we're focusing that work on leading in the AI transition with Azure. And so you're right, even as we're investing in AI infrastructure, which will and should show up as revenue, it'll also show up in COGS and still deliver good margin. But this does have a slightly -- as I talked about earlier, easier comp in Q1 and Q2, given it was some of our highest growth operating expense quarters in our company's history a year ago.

当然,在运营支出方面,人们一直非常注重即使在该细分市场内也能继续下去,以确保我们将工作重点放在引领Azure的人工智能过渡上。因此,你说得对,尽管我们正在投资人工智能基础设施,这些基础设施将而且应该显示为收入,但它也将出现在COGS中,并且仍然会带来不错的利润。但是,正如我之前所说,鉴于这是我们一年前公司历史上增长最高的运营支出季度,因此第一季度和第二季度的补偿确实稍微容易一些。

Brent Bracelin

布伦特·布雷斯林

Makes sense. Thank you.

有道理。谢谢。

Brett Iversen

布雷特·艾弗森

Thanks, Brent. Joe, we have time for one last question.

谢谢,布伦特。Joe,我们有时间问最后一个问题。

Gregg Moskowitz

格雷格·莫斯科维茨

Okay. Thank you very much for taking the question. And maybe just a follow-up to what Brent was just asking about, but on the gross margin line. Amy, the Microsoft cloud gross margin is up 2 points year-over-year, excluding the useful life change, a little more improvement than we've seen in some time and some investors were worried that it might go in the other direction, given increased AI investments. And so, as you look forward, do you think that you could drive some continued gross margin improvement over the medium term and even as higher CapEx will filter into the model? Thanks.

好吧。非常感谢你回答这个问题。也许只是布伦特原油刚才问的话的后续行动,但是在毛利率线上。艾米,微软云毛利率同比增长2个百分点,不包括使用寿命的变化,这比我们一段时间以来看到的要多一些,一些投资者担心,鉴于人工智能投资的增加,它可能会朝另一个方向发展。那么,展望未来,即使更高的资本支出将渗透到模型中,你是否认为在中期内可以推动毛利率的持续提高?谢谢。

Amy Hood

艾米胡德

Yeah. Let me break that into two components, because they're both important and it's a really good question, Gregg. On our core business, the core Azure business, the core Office 365, M365 business, Dynamics business, they're -- they continue to deliver gross margin year-over-year improvements in the core. And so that, like in other quarters has helped this quarter.

是的。让我把它分成两个部分,因为它们都很重要,而且这是一个非常好的问题,格雷格。在我们的核心业务,即核心Azure业务、核心Office 365、M365业务、Dynamics业务方面,它们是,它们继续实现核心业务的毛利率同比增长。因此,与其他方面一样,这对本季度有所帮助。

In addition, what Satya mentioned earlier in a question, and I just want to take every chance to reiterate it, if you have a consistent infrastructure from the platform all the way up through its layers, then every capital dollar we spend, if we optimize revenue against it, we will have great leverage, because wherever demand shows up in the layers, whether it's at the SaaS layer, whether it's at the infrastructure layer, whether it's for training workloads, we're able to quickly put our infrastructure to work generating revenue, or on our Bing workloads. I mean, I should have mentioned all the consumer workloads use the same frame.

此外,Satya 之前在一个问题中提到的,我只想借此机会重申一下,如果你有一个从平台一直到各个层面的一致基础架构,那么我们花费的每一笔资金,如果我们根据它优化收入,我们就会有很大的杠杆作用,因为无论需求出现在哪里,无论是在 SaaS 层,还是基础设施层,无论是用于培训工作负载,我们都是能够快速将我们的基础架构投入使用,从而创造收入,或者用于我们的 Bing 工作负载。我的意思是,我应该提到所有的消费者工作负载都使用相同的框架。

And so when you think about our investment in AI, yes, it will -- because we're committed to leading this wave and see demand, you will see that impact in COGS growth. But what we're committed to doing is making sure it's highly leveraged and making sure you see the same growth in revenue. And I think on occasion, you may see something pick up 1 or 2 points and the other one not quite get there, but the point is, it's going to be very well paired because of the choices we've made over the past, frankly, numerous years, to get to a point where that infrastructure is consistent.

因此,当你考虑我们对人工智能的投资时,是的,确实如此 —— 因为我们致力于引领这一浪潮并看到需求,所以你会看到对COGS增长的影响。但是我们致力于做的是确保其杠杆率很高,并确保你看到同样的收入增长。而且我认为,有时,你可能会看到一些东西获得 1 或 2 个积分而另一个没有完全达到目标,但关键是,坦率地说,由于我们在过去,坦率地说,很多年来做出了选择,以达到基础设施一致的地步。

Satya Nadella

萨蒂亚·纳德拉

And I'll just add that it'll be very well paired at the company level. I realize all of you care a lot about each one of our segments and each one of our KPIs, and I do too, but at the end of the day, our stack and the way it works, the way we do our capital allocation, the way we think about even the optimization of the demand to utilization is across the entirety of all of our segments and all of our products.

我只想补充一点,它将在公司层面搭配得很好。我意识到你们所有人都非常关心我们的每个细分市场和每一个关键绩效指标,我也是,但归根结底,我们的堆栈及其运作方式,我们的资本配置方式,我们对利用需求优化的思考方式涉及我们所有的细分市场和所有产品。

Gregg Moskowitz

格雷格·莫斯科维茨

Very helpful. Thanks.

非常有帮助。谢谢。

Brett Iversen

布雷特·艾弗森

Thanks, Gregg. That wraps up the Q&A portion of today's earnings call. Thank you for join us today and we look-forward to speaking with all of you soon.

谢谢,格雷格。今天财报电话会议的问答部分到此结束。感谢您今天加入我们,我们期待尽快与大家交谈。

Amy Hood

艾米胡德

Thank you.

谢谢。

Satya Nadella

萨蒂亚·纳德拉

Thank you.

谢谢。

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