We Think Ninestar (SZSE:002180) Is Taking Some Risk With Its Debt
We Think Ninestar (SZSE:002180) Is Taking Some Risk With Its Debt
Howard Marks put it nicely when he said that, rather than worrying about share price volatility, 'The possibility of permanent loss is the risk I worry about... and every practical investor I know worries about.' So it seems the smart money knows that debt - which is usually involved in bankruptcies - is a very important factor, when you assess how risky a company is. Importantly, Ninestar Corporation (SZSE:002180) does carry debt. But is this debt a concern to shareholders?
当霍华德·马克斯这样说时很好:“与其担心股价波动,‘永久性损失的可能性是我担心的风险……我认识的每一位实践投资者都在担心这个问题。’因此,看起来聪明的投资者知道,债务——通常涉及破产——是评估公司风险时非常重要的因素。值得注意的是,纳思达集团(SZSE:002180)确实有债务。但这种债务是否让股东担忧呢?
When Is Debt A Problem?
什么时候负债才是一个问题?
Debt is a tool to help businesses grow, but if a business is incapable of paying off its lenders, then it exists at their mercy. Part and parcel of capitalism is the process of 'creative destruction' where failed businesses are mercilessly liquidated by their bankers. However, a more frequent (but still costly) occurrence is where a company must issue shares at bargain-basement prices, permanently diluting shareholders, just to shore up its balance sheet. Of course, debt can be an important tool in businesses, particularly capital heavy businesses. The first step when considering a company's debt levels is to consider its cash and debt together.
债务是帮助企业增长的工具,但如果企业无力偿还债权人,那么企业就处于他们的掌控之下。资本主义的重要组成部分之一是“创造性破坏”的过程,失败的企业被银行家无情地清算。然而,更频繁的(但仍然代价高昂的)情况是,一家公司必须以低廉的价格发行股票,永久性地稀释股东权益,以此来支撑其资产负债表。当然,债务可以是企业的重要工具,特别是对于资本密集型企业来说。在考虑公司的债务水平时,第一步是将其现金和债务合并考虑。
What Is Ninestar's Net Debt?
纳思达的净债务是多少?
You can click the graphic below for the historical numbers, but it shows that Ninestar had CN¥12.2b of debt in June 2024, down from CN¥15.9b, one year before. However, because it has a cash reserve of CN¥6.83b, its net debt is less, at about CN¥5.37b.
您可以点击下方的图表查看历史数据,但它显示,2024年6月,纳思达的债务为122亿人民币,比一年前的159亿下降。然而,由于其有68.3亿人民币的现金储备,净债务较少,大约为53.7亿人民币。
A Look At Ninestar's Liabilities
纳思达负债情况一览
According to the last reported balance sheet, Ninestar had liabilities of CN¥10.8b due within 12 months, and liabilities of CN¥15.8b due beyond 12 months. On the other hand, it had cash of CN¥6.83b and CN¥5.03b worth of receivables due within a year. So its liabilities total CN¥14.7b more than the combination of its cash and short-term receivables.
根据最近披露的资产负债表显示,纳思达有108亿人民币的负债需在12个月内偿还,以及158亿人民币的负债需在12个月以上偿还。另一方面,公司拥有68.3亿人民币的现金和50.3亿人民币的应收账款在一年内到期。因此,其负债总额比其现金和短期应收账款的总和多出147亿人民币。
This deficit isn't so bad because Ninestar is worth CN¥40.5b, and thus could probably raise enough capital to shore up its balance sheet, if the need arose. But we definitely want to keep our eyes open to indications that its debt is bringing too much risk.
这个赤字并不算太糟糕,因为纳思达市值达到了405亿人民币,因此在必要时可能能够筹集到足够的资本来弥补其资产负债表,但我们一定要密切关注公司的债务是否带来了过多风险。
We use two main ratios to inform us about debt levels relative to earnings. The first is net debt divided by earnings before interest, tax, depreciation, and amortization (EBITDA), while the second is how many times its earnings before interest and tax (EBIT) covers its interest expense (or its interest cover, for short). Thus we consider debt relative to earnings both with and without depreciation and amortization expenses.
我们使用两个主要的比率来告诉我们相对于收益的债务水平。第一个是净债务除以利息、税、折旧和摊销前利润(EBITDA),而第二个是其利润前利息和税(EBIT)覆盖其利息费用的次数(或其利息覆盖率,简称)。因此,我们考虑与折旧和摊销费用相关的盈利以及没有相关费用的盈利相对于债务水平。
While Ninestar has a quite reasonable net debt to EBITDA multiple of 2.4, its interest cover seems weak, at 2.5. This does have us wondering if the company pays high interest because it is considered risky. In any case, it's safe to say the company has meaningful debt. Importantly, Ninestar's EBIT fell a jaw-dropping 32% in the last twelve months. If that decline continues then paying off debt will be harder than selling foie gras at a vegan convention. The balance sheet is clearly the area to focus on when you are analysing debt. But it is future earnings, more than anything, that will determine Ninestar's ability to maintain a healthy balance sheet going forward. So if you're focused on the future you can check out this free report showing analyst profit forecasts.
尽管纳思达的净负债与EBITDA倍数为2.4,其利息盈利覆盖率却很弱,为2.5。这让我们想知道该公司是否支付高利息是因为被视为高风险。无论如何,可以肯定该公司存在着实质性的负债。值得注意的是,纳思达上一年的EBIt下降了惊人的32%。如果这种下降持续下去,偿还债务将比在素食者大会上卖鹅肝更为困难。资产负债表显然是分析债务时的重点。但最终决定公司能否支付债务的更多是未来收益,因此,如果你着眼未来,可以查看这份显示分析师利润预测的免费报告。
But our final consideration is also important, because a company cannot pay debt with paper profits; it needs cold hard cash. So we clearly need to look at whether that EBIT is leading to corresponding free cash flow. During the last three years, Ninestar produced sturdy free cash flow equating to 73% of its EBIT, about what we'd expect. This free cash flow puts the company in a good position to pay down debt, when appropriate.
但我们的最后考虑同样重要,因为公司无法用虚拟利润偿还债务;它需要现金。因此,我们明显需要看看EBIt是否带来相应的自由现金流。在过去三年中,纳思达产生了强劲的自由现金流,相当于其EBIt的73%,这符合我们的预期。这份自由现金流使公司在适当时能够偿还债务,处于一个良好的位置。
Our View
我们的观点
Ninestar's EBIT growth rate was a real negative on this analysis, although the other factors we considered cast it in a significantly better light. In particular, its conversion of EBIT to free cash flow was re-invigorating. When we consider all the factors discussed, it seems to us that Ninestar is taking some risks with its use of debt. While that debt can boost returns, we think the company has enough leverage now. When analysing debt levels, the balance sheet is the obvious place to start. But ultimately, every company can contain risks that exist outside of the balance sheet. For instance, we've identified 1 warning sign for Ninestar that you should be aware of.
纳思达的EBIt增长率在这项分析中确实是一个真正的负面因素,尽管我们考虑的其他因素使其呈现出更有利的一面。特别是,它将EBIt转化为自由现金流的能力让人耳目一新。当我们考虑到所有讨论过的因素时,我们认为纳思达正在用债务承担一些风险。虽然这种债务可以提高回报,但我们认为公司目前已经杠杆化过多。在分析债务水平时,资产负债表是显而易见的起点。但最终,每家公司都可能面临资产负债表之外存在的风险。例如,我们已经发现了你应该注意的一项纳思达的警示信号。
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