We Think ASGN (NYSE:ASGN) Can Stay On Top Of Its Debt
We Think ASGN (NYSE:ASGN) Can Stay On Top Of Its Debt
The external fund manager backed by Berkshire Hathaway's Charlie Munger, Li Lu, makes no bones about it when he says 'The biggest investment risk is not the volatility of prices, but whether you will suffer a permanent loss of capital.' It's only natural to consider a company's balance sheet when you examine how risky it is, since debt is often involved when a business collapses. We note that ASGN Incorporated (NYSE:ASGN) does have debt on its balance sheet. But the more important question is: how much risk is that debt creating?
伯克希尔哈撒韦支持的外部基金经理李录(Charlie Munger)毫不掩饰地表示,“最大的投资风险不是价格的波动性,而是你是否会遭受到资本的永久损失。” 当您评估风险时,自然会考虑公司的资产负债表,因为公司破产时通常涉及债务。 我们注意到ASGN Incorporated(纽交所:ASGN)的资产负债表上确实有债务。 但更重要的问题是:这笔债务带来了多大的风险?
When Is Debt A Problem?
什么时候负债才是一个问题?
Debt assists a business until the business has trouble paying it off, either with new capital or with free cash flow. Part and parcel of capitalism is the process of 'creative destruction' where failed businesses are mercilessly liquidated by their bankers. However, a more usual (but still expensive) situation is where a company must dilute shareholders at a cheap share price simply to get debt under control. By replacing dilution, though, debt can be an extremely good tool for businesses that need capital to invest in growth at high rates of return. The first thing to do when considering how much debt a business uses is to look at its cash and debt together.
债务在企业遇到困难无法偿还时提供帮助,可以通过新资金或自由现金流。资本主义的一个组成部分是'创造性破坏',失败的企业会被银行无情清算。然而,更常见(但仍然昂贵)的情况是一家公司必须以低廉的股价稀释股东权益,简单地为了控制债务。然而,债务可以成为需要资本以高回报率投资和增长的企业的极好工具,以替代稀释。在考虑企业使用多少债务时,首要事项是查看其现金和债务的总量。
What Is ASGN's Debt?
什么是ASGN的债务?
As you can see below, ASGN had US$1.04b of debt, at September 2024, which is about the same as the year before. You can click the chart for greater detail. On the flip side, it has US$166.6m in cash leading to net debt of about US$872.8m.
正如您所看到的,到2024年9月,ASGN的债务为10.4亿美元,与前一年相当。 您可以点击图表以获取更详细信息。 另一方面,公司有16660万美元的现金,净债务约为87280万美元。
A Look At ASGN's Liabilities
ASGN的负债情况
Zooming in on the latest balance sheet data, we can see that ASGN had liabilities of US$403.6m due within 12 months and liabilities of US$1.25b due beyond that. Offsetting this, it had US$166.6m in cash and US$686.4m in receivables that were due within 12 months. So its liabilities outweigh the sum of its cash and (near-term) receivables by US$804.3m.
深入了解最新资产负债表数据,我们可以看到ASGN有40360万美元的到期负债,12个月内到期,以及12.5亿美元的长期到期负债。与此相抵,它有16660万美元现金和68640万美元应于12个月内到期的应收账款。因此,其负债超过其现金和(短期)应收账款总和80430万美元。
Given ASGN has a market capitalization of US$4.35b, it's hard to believe these liabilities pose much threat. Having said that, it's clear that we should continue to monitor its balance sheet, lest it change for the worse.
考虑到ASGN的市值为43.5亿美元,很难相信这些负债会构成威胁。话虽如此,很明显,我们应继续监控其资产负债表,以免情况变得更糟。
We measure a company's debt load relative to its earnings power by looking at its net debt divided by its earnings before interest, tax, depreciation, and amortization (EBITDA) and by calculating how easily its earnings before interest and tax (EBIT) cover its interest expense (interest cover). This way, we consider both the absolute quantum of the debt, as well as the interest rates paid on it.
我们通过将公司的净债务与其息税折旧摊销前利润(EBITDA)相除,并计算其息税前利润(EBIT)如何覆盖其利息费用(利息覆盖率)来衡量公司的债务负担相对于其盈利能力。因此,我们同时考虑债务的绝对数量以及所支付的利率。
ASGN's net debt is sitting at a very reasonable 2.1 times its EBITDA, while its EBIT covered its interest expense just 4.7 times last year. While these numbers do not alarm us, it's worth noting that the cost of the company's debt is having a real impact. Unfortunately, ASGN's EBIT flopped 15% over the last four quarters. If that sort of decline is not arrested, then the managing its debt will be harder than selling broccoli flavoured ice-cream for a premium. There's no doubt that we learn most about debt from the balance sheet. But it is future earnings, more than anything, that will determine ASGN's ability to maintain a healthy balance sheet going forward. So if you're focused on the future you can check out this free report showing analyst profit forecasts.
ASGN的净债务占其EBITDA的2.1倍,而其EBIT去年仅覆盖了利息支出的4.7倍。尽管这些数字并未引起我们的警觉,但值得注意的是公司债务的成本确实产生了真实影响。不幸的是,ASGN的EBIT在过去四个季度下降了15%。如果这种下降没有得到遏制,那么管理其债务将比以溢价出售西兰花味冰淇淋更加困难。毫无疑问,我们绝大部分关于债务的了解来自资产负债表。但是未来收入,胜过一切,将决定ASGN未来维持健康资产负债表的能力。因此,如果您专注于未来,可以查看这份免费报告,展示分析师的利润预测。
Finally, a company can only pay off debt with cold hard cash, not accounting profits. So we clearly need to look at whether that EBIT is leading to corresponding free cash flow. During the last three years, ASGN produced sturdy free cash flow equating to 79% of its EBIT, about what we'd expect. This cold hard cash means it can reduce its debt when it wants to.
最后,公司只能用冰冷的现金偿还债务,而不是会计利润。因此,我们明确需要查看那些EBIT是否导致相应的自由现金流。在过去三年中,ASGN产生了坚实的自由现金流,相当于其EBIT的79%,与我们的预期相符。这笔冰冷的现金意味着它可以在需要时减少债务。
Our View
我们的观点
When it comes to the balance sheet, the standout positive for ASGN was the fact that it seems able to convert EBIT to free cash flow confidently. However, our other observations weren't so heartening. To be specific, it seems about as good at (not) growing its EBIT as wet socks are at keeping your feet warm. When we consider all the factors mentioned above, we do feel a bit cautious about ASGN's use of debt. While debt does have its upside in higher potential returns, we think shareholders should definitely consider how debt levels might make the stock more risky. The balance sheet is clearly the area to focus on when you are analysing debt. However, not all investment risk resides within the balance sheet - far from it. To that end, you should be aware of the 2 warning signs we've spotted with ASGN .
在讨论资产负债表时,ASGN的显著优点是它似乎能够自信地将EBIt转换为自由现金流。然而,我们的其他观察结果并不那么令人振奋。具体来说,它在增长EBIt方面似乎并不如湿袜子保持脚暖一样出色。当我们考虑以上提到的所有因素时,我们对ASGN使用债务感到有些谨慎。虽然债务确实存在潜在的更高回报,但我们认为股东们一定要考虑债务水平可能会使股票更加风险。资产负债表显然是您在分析债务时需要专注的领域。然而,并非所有投资风险都在资产负债表中——远非如此。因此,您应该注意我们在ASGN发现的2个警告信号。
At the end of the day, it's often better to focus on companies that are free from net debt. You can access our special list of such companies (all with a track record of profit growth). It's free.
每天结束时,通常更好地关注那些没有净债务的公司。您可以查看我们特别名单上的这些公司(所有这些公司都有盈利增长记录)。这是免费的。
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