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International Business Machines (NYSE:IBM) Seems To Use Debt Quite Sensibly

International Business Machines (NYSE:IBM) Seems To Use Debt Quite Sensibly

国际商业机器公司(纽交所:IBM)似乎相当明智地利用债务
Simply Wall St ·  2024/12/01 22:30

Legendary fund manager Li Lu (who Charlie Munger backed) once said, 'The biggest investment risk is not the volatility of prices, but whether you will suffer a permanent loss of capital.' When we think about how risky a company is, we always like to look at its use of debt, since debt overload can lead to ruin. We note that International Business Machines Corporation (NYSE:IBM) does have debt on its balance sheet. But is this debt a concern to shareholders?

传奇基金经理李露(由查理·芒格支持)曾经说过:“最大的投资风险不是价格的波动,而是你是否会遭受永久的资本损失。”当我们考虑一家公司的风险时,我们总是喜欢考虑其债务的用途,因为债务过载可能导致破产。我们注意到,国际商业机器公司(纽约证券交易所代码:IBM)的资产负债表上确实有债务。但是这笔债务是股东关心的问题吗?

Why Does Debt Bring Risk?

为什么债务会带来风险?

Debt is a tool to help businesses grow, but if a business is incapable of paying off its lenders, then it exists at their mercy. Part and parcel of capitalism is the process of 'creative destruction' where failed businesses are mercilessly liquidated by their bankers. While that is not too common, we often do see indebted companies permanently diluting shareholders because lenders force them to raise capital at a distressed price. Of course, the upside of debt is that it often represents cheap capital, especially when it replaces dilution in a company with the ability to reinvest at high rates of return. The first thing to do when considering how much debt a business uses is to look at its cash and debt together.

债务是帮助企业增长的工具,但是如果企业无法偿还贷款,那么债务就任其摆布。资本主义的组成部分是 “创造性破坏” 过程,在这种过程中,倒闭的企业被银行家无情地清算。尽管这种情况并不常见,但我们经常会看到负债公司永久稀释股东,因为贷款人迫使他们以不良价格筹集资金。当然,债务的好处在于它通常代表廉价资本,尤其是当它以高回报率进行再投资的能力取代公司的稀释时。在考虑企业使用多少债务时,要做的第一件事是同时考虑其现金和债务。

What Is International Business Machines's Net Debt?

什么是国际商业机器的净负债?

As you can see below, International Business Machines had US$55.7b of debt, at September 2024, which is about the same as the year before. You can click the chart for greater detail. On the flip side, it has US$13.7b in cash leading to net debt of about US$42.0b.

如下所示,截至2024年9月,国际商业机器的债务为557亿美元,与前一年大致相同。您可以单击图表以获取更多详细信息。另一方面,它拥有137亿美元的现金,净负债约为420亿美元。

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NYSE:IBM Debt to Equity History December 1st 2024
纽约证券交易所:IBM 2024 年 12 月 1 日债务与股本的比率记录

A Look At International Business Machines' Liabilities

看看国际商业机器的负债

The latest balance sheet data shows that International Business Machines had liabilities of US$28.9b due within a year, and liabilities of US$81.0b falling due after that. On the other hand, it had cash of US$13.7b and US$6.89b worth of receivables due within a year. So it has liabilities totalling US$89.2b more than its cash and near-term receivables, combined.

最新的资产负债表数据显示,国际商业机器在一年内到期的负债为289亿美元,此后到期的负债为810亿美元。另一方面,它有137亿美元的现金和价值68.9亿美元的应收账款将在一年内到期。因此,它的负债总额比其现金和短期应收账款的总和多出892亿美元。

International Business Machines has a very large market capitalization of US$210.3b, so it could very likely raise cash to ameliorate its balance sheet, if the need arose. But we definitely want to keep our eyes open to indications that its debt is bringing too much risk.

International Business Machines的市值非常大,为2103亿美元,因此,如果需要,它很可能会筹集资金以改善其资产负债表。但是,我们绝对希望留意其债务带来过大风险的迹象。

In order to size up a company's debt relative to its earnings, we calculate its net debt divided by its earnings before interest, tax, depreciation, and amortization (EBITDA) and its earnings before interest and tax (EBIT) divided by its interest expense (its interest cover). This way, we consider both the absolute quantum of the debt, as well as the interest rates paid on it.

为了扩大公司相对于收益的负债规模,我们计算其净负债除以其扣除利息、税项、折旧和摊销前的收益(EBITDA)和其利息和税前收益(EBIT)除以其利息支出(利息保障)。这样,我们既要考虑债务的绝对数量,也要考虑为其支付的利率。

International Business Machines has a debt to EBITDA ratio of 2.9, which signals significant debt, but is still pretty reasonable for most types of business. However, its interest coverage of 10.5 is very high, suggesting that the interest expense on the debt is currently quite low. Pleasingly, International Business Machines is growing its EBIT faster than former Australian PM Bob Hawke downs a yard glass, boasting a 194% gain in the last twelve months. The balance sheet is clearly the area to focus on when you are analysing debt. But it is future earnings, more than anything, that will determine International Business Machines's ability to maintain a healthy balance sheet going forward. So if you're focused on the future you can check out this free report showing analyst profit forecasts.

International Business Machines的债务与息税折旧摊销前利润的比率为2.9,这表明负债累累,但对于大多数类型的企业来说仍然相当合理。但是,其10.5的利息覆盖率非常高,这表明债务的利息支出目前相当低。令人高兴的是,国际商业机器公司的息税前利润增长速度快于澳大利亚前总理鲍勃·霍克的息税前利润增长速度,在过去十二个月中增长了194%。资产负债表显然是分析债务时需要关注的领域。但是,未来的收益比什么都重要,将决定国际商业机器未来维持健康资产负债表的能力。因此,如果您专注于未来,可以查看这份显示分析师利润预测的免费报告。

Finally, while the tax-man may adore accounting profits, lenders only accept cold hard cash. So it's worth checking how much of that EBIT is backed by free cash flow. Happily for any shareholders, International Business Machines actually produced more free cash flow than EBIT over the last three years. That sort of strong cash generation warms our hearts like a puppy in a bumblebee suit.

最后,尽管税务人员可能喜欢会计利润,但贷款人只接受冷硬现金。因此,值得检查一下该息税前利润中有多少是由自由现金流支持的。令所有股东感到高兴的是,在过去三年中,国际商业机器产生的自由现金流实际上超过了息税前利润。这种强劲的现金产生像穿着大黄蜂套装的小狗一样温暖着我们的心。

Our View

我们的观点

Happily, International Business Machines's impressive conversion of EBIT to free cash flow implies it has the upper hand on its debt. But, on a more sombre note, we are a little concerned by its net debt to EBITDA. Zooming out, International Business Machines seems to use debt quite reasonably; and that gets the nod from us. While debt does bring risk, when used wisely it can also bring a higher return on equity. There's no doubt that we learn most about debt from the balance sheet. However, not all investment risk resides within the balance sheet - far from it. Be aware that International Business Machines is showing 3 warning signs in our investment analysis , you should know about...

令人高兴的是,International Business Machines令人印象深刻地将息税前利润转换为自由现金流,这意味着它在债务上占了上风。但是,更悲观的是,我们对其净负债占息税折旧摊销前利润的比例有些担忧。放眼望去,国际商业机器似乎相当合理地使用债务;这得到了我们的点头。虽然债务确实会带来风险,但如果明智地使用,它也可以带来更高的股本回报率。毫无疑问,我们从资产负债表中学到的关于债务的知识最多。但是,并非所有的投资风险都存在于资产负债表中,远非如此。请注意,国际商业机器在我们的投资分析中显示出3个警告信号,你应该知道...

Of course, if you're the type of investor who prefers buying stocks without the burden of debt, then don't hesitate to discover our exclusive list of net cash growth stocks, today.

当然,如果你是那种喜欢在没有债务负担的情况下购买股票的投资者,那么请立即查看我们的独家净现金增长股票清单。

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