These 4 Measures Indicate That Southern (NYSE:SO) Is Using Debt Extensively
These 4 Measures Indicate That Southern (NYSE:SO) Is Using Debt Extensively
Some say volatility, rather than debt, is the best way to think about risk as an investor, but Warren Buffett famously said that 'Volatility is far from synonymous with risk.' It's only natural to consider a company's balance sheet when you examine how risky it is, since debt is often involved when a business collapses. We can see that The Southern Company (NYSE:SO) does use debt in its business. But the more important question is: how much risk is that debt creating?
有人说波动性比债务更能反映投资者的风险,但沃伦·巴菲特曾说过:'波动性远不是风险的同义词。' 在考虑一家公司有多危险时,查看其资产负债表是非常自然的,因为债务通常在企业崩溃时涉及其中。我们可以看到,南方公司(纽交所:SO)确实在其业务中使用债务。但更重要的问题是:这笔债务造成了多少风险?
Why Does Debt Bring Risk?
为什么债务带来风险?
Debt and other liabilities become risky for a business when it cannot easily fulfill those obligations, either with free cash flow or by raising capital at an attractive price. If things get really bad, the lenders can take control of the business. However, a more usual (but still expensive) situation is where a company must dilute shareholders at a cheap share price simply to get debt under control. By replacing dilution, though, debt can be an extremely good tool for businesses that need capital to invest in growth at high rates of return. When we think about a company's use of debt, we first look at cash and debt together.
当企业无法轻松履行债务和其他负债时,便会面临风险,无论是通过自由现金流还是以有吸引力的价格筹集资本。如果情况变得非常糟糕,债权人可以控制企业。然而,更常见(但仍然代价不菲)的情况是,公司必须以较低的股价稀释股东权益,仅仅是为了控制债务。然而,通过替代稀释,债务可以成为需要资本以高回报率进行增长投资的企业的极好工具。当我们考虑一家公司的债务使用时,我们首先将现金和债务一起看。
What Is Southern's Net Debt?
南方公司的净债务是多少?
You can click the graphic below for the historical numbers, but it shows that as of September 2024 Southern had US$63.6b of debt, an increase on US$60.8b, over one year. And it doesn't have much cash, so its net debt is about the same.
您可以点击下面的图形查看历史数据,但它显示截至2024年9月,南方公司的债务为636亿美元,比过去一年增加了608亿美元。而且它没有太多现金,因此其净债务大致相同。
A Look At Southern's Liabilities
查看南方公司的负债
According to the last reported balance sheet, Southern had liabilities of US$12.2b due within 12 months, and liabilities of US$94.9b due beyond 12 months. On the other hand, it had cash of US$1.02b and US$4.42b worth of receivables due within a year. So its liabilities total US$101.6b more than the combination of its cash and short-term receivables.
根据最近公布的资产负债表,南方公司的负债为122亿美元,12个月内到期,12个月后到期的负债为949亿美元。另一方面,它现金为10.2亿美元,应收账款为44.2亿美元,这些都将在一年内到期。因此,它的负债总额为1016亿美元,这超过了它的现金和短期应收账款的总和。
Given this deficit is actually higher than the company's massive market capitalization of US$90.8b, we think shareholders really should watch Southern's debt levels, like a parent watching their child ride a bike for the first time. In the scenario where the company had to clean up its balance sheet quickly, it seems likely shareholders would suffer extensive dilution.
考虑到这个赤字实际上高于公司巨大的市场资本化908亿美元,我们认为股东确实应该关注南方公司的债务水平,就像父母第一次看着孩子骑自行车那样。在公司必须迅速清理资产负债表的情况下,股东很可能会遭受严重的稀释。
We measure a company's debt load relative to its earnings power by looking at its net debt divided by its earnings before interest, tax, depreciation, and amortization (EBITDA) and by calculating how easily its earnings before interest and tax (EBIT) cover its interest expense (interest cover). Thus we consider debt relative to earnings both with and without depreciation and amortization expenses.
我们通过查看公司的净负债与息税折旧摊销前利润(EBITDA)的比例来衡量公司相对于其收益能力的债务负担,以及计算其息税前利润(EBIT)覆盖利息支出的能力(利息覆盖率)。因此,我们在考虑收益时同时考虑了折旧与摊销费用及不考虑这些费用的情况。
Southern has a debt to EBITDA ratio of 4.8 and its EBIT covered its interest expense 2.9 times. Taken together this implies that, while we wouldn't want to see debt levels rise, we think it can handle its current leverage. The good news is that Southern grew its EBIT a smooth 40% over the last twelve months. Like a mother's loving embrace of a newborn that sort of growth builds resilience, putting the company in a stronger position to manage its debt. There's no doubt that we learn most about debt from the balance sheet. But it is future earnings, more than anything, that will determine Southern's ability to maintain a healthy balance sheet going forward. So if you're focused on the future you can check out this free report showing analyst profit forecasts.
南方公司的债务与EBITDA的比率为4.8,EBIT覆盖其利息支出2.9倍。综合来看,这表明,虽然我们不希望看到债务水平上升,但我们认为它可以处理当前的杠杆。好消息是,南方公司在过去十二个月中,EBIT增长了40%。这种增长就像母亲温暖的怀抱,使公司在管理债务时更具弹性。毫无疑问,我们从资产负债表中学到的最多是关于债务的知识。但未来的收益,超过一切,将判断南方公司是否能够维持健康的资产负债表。因此,如果你专注于未来,可以查看这份显示分析师利润预测的免费报告。
But our final consideration is also important, because a company cannot pay debt with paper profits; it needs cold hard cash. So we clearly need to look at whether that EBIT is leading to corresponding free cash flow. Over the last three years, Southern recorded negative free cash flow, in total. Debt is usually more expensive, and almost always more risky in the hands of a company with negative free cash flow. Shareholders ought to hope for an improvement.
但我们的最终考虑也很重要,因为公司不能用纸上利润来偿还债务;它需要冷硬的现金。因此,我们显然需要查看EBIT是否导致对应的自由现金流。在过去三年中,南方公司记录的自由现金流为负,总体而言。债务通常更昂贵,几乎总是在拥有负自由现金流的公司的手中更具风险。股东们应该希望获得改善。
Our View
我们的观点
Mulling over Southern's attempt at converting EBIT to free cash flow, we're certainly not enthusiastic. But on the bright side, its EBIT growth rate is a good sign, and makes us more optimistic. It's also worth noting that Southern is in the Electric Utilities industry, which is often considered to be quite defensive. Overall, we think it's fair to say that Southern has enough debt that there are some real risks around the balance sheet. If all goes well, that should boost returns, but on the flip side, the risk of permanent capital loss is elevated by the debt. There's no doubt that we learn most about debt from the balance sheet. However, not all investment risk resides within the balance sheet - far from it. We've identified 3 warning signs with Southern (at least 1 which shouldn't be ignored) , and understanding them should be part of your investment process.
考虑到南方公司将EBIT转化为自由现金流的尝试,我们对此并不热衷。 但好的一面是,它的EBIT增长率是一个好兆头,使我们更加乐观。 另外值得注意的是,南方公司处于公用股行业,这通常被认为是相当防御性的。 总体而言,我们认为可以公平地说,南方公司有足够的债务,因此在资产负债表上存在一些真实风险。如果一切顺利,这将提升回报,但另一方面,债务提高了永久性资本损失的风险。 毫无疑问,我们从资产负债表中了解了大部分关于债务的知识。然而,并非所有的投资风险都存在于资产负债表中——远非如此。我们已经确定了南方公司的三个警告信号(至少有一个不可忽视),理解这些信号应该是您投资过程的一部分。
When all is said and done, sometimes its easier to focus on companies that don't even need debt. Readers can access a list of growth stocks with zero net debt 100% free, right now.
无论最终结果如何,有时候更容易关注那些根本不需要债务的公司。读者可以立即免费获取一份净债务为零的成长股列表。
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