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EXCLUSIVE: Sundial's CEO Talks Cannabis Industry Expectations, Says US May Repeat Some Of Canada's Mistakes

EXCLUSIVE: Sundial's CEO Talks Cannabis Industry Expectations, Says US May Repeat Some Of Canada's Mistakes

独家报道:阳光拨号公司首席执行官谈到大麻行业的期望,称美国可能会重蹈加拿大的覆辙
Benzinga Real-time News ·  2021/10/14 14:40

Reddit’s favorite marijuana stock Sundial Growers (NASDAQ: SNDL) announced last week it will buy Canadian liquor retailer Alcanna Inc. for roughly $346 million. 

Reddit最喜欢的大麻库存日规种植者(纳斯达克股票代码:SNDL)上周宣布将收购加拿大酒类零售商阿尔坎纳公司(Alcanna Inc.) 大约3.46亿美元。

Apart from Alcanna's longstanding liquor business with trailing 12-month free cash flow of $16.4 million on a built-out retail platform, the acquisition brings Sundial enhanced exposure with an investment in Nova Cannabis Inc. (TSE: NOVC), a publicly listed, pure-play cannabis retail operator in which Alcanna holds an approximately 63% equity interest.

除了阿尔坎纳长期的白酒业务,在一个内置的零售平台上有1640万美元的往绩12个月自由现金流,此次收购还增加了Sunial的敞口,投资于新大麻公司(Nova Cannabis Inc.)(东京证券交易所股票代码:NOVC),一家公开上市的纯大麻零售运营商阿尔坎纳持有约63%的股权。

Sundial’s chief executive officer and director Zachary George revealed other company’s plans and expectations and discussed the industry and its regulations at this week’s Benzinga Cannabis Capital Conference, happening Oct. 14-15 in New York City at the Marriott Marquis Hotel.

太阳表盘公司首席执行官兼董事Zachary George透露了其他公司的计划和期望,并讨论了该行业及其法规在本周的本辛加大麻首都会议,将于10月14日至15日在纽约市万豪侯爵酒店(Marriott Marquis Hotel)举行。

He was interviewed by Jelani Gibson, content lead for NJ Cannabis Insider at NJ Advance Media.

他接受了《纽约时报》记者的采访。杰拉尼·吉布森,NJ Advanced Media NJ Cannabis Insider的内容主管。

Operational Challenges 

运营挑战

George first talked about the challenging times the company had when he took the role of CEO in February 2020. While the company’s cultivation results were poor, Sundial was spending too much capital, burning roughly $15 million a month, with peak debt of around $250 million, he said. 

乔治首先谈到了当他于2020年2月就任首席执行官时,公司经历了一段充满挑战的时期。虽然该公司的培养效果不佳,但Sunial花费太多资金,每月消耗约1500万美元最高负债约2.5亿美元,他说。

The company was facing two realities at the time, George said: One, “If we didn’t have a successful recreational business in Canada we likely didn’t have a business," two, the company needed restructuring. 

该公司面临着两个现实当时,乔治说:第一,“如果我们在加拿大没有成功的娱乐业务,我们很可能就没有业务。”第二,公司需要重组。

By a series of restricting moves like large asset sales, exiting six countries and letting go more than 500 employees, Sundial managed to retire all of its debt and refocus the business model, the CEO said. 

这位首席执行官说,通过大规模出售资产、退出六个国家和解雇500多名员工等一系列限制举措,Sunial成功地偿还了所有债务,并重新聚焦了商业模式。

“We're looking to really be a partner to the industry and not just compete with the next LP beside us,” George said, adding that the second pillar of the company’s model is concentrated on finding out where economic returns are being earned in the cannabis space.

乔治说:“我们希望真正成为该行业的合作伙伴,而不仅仅是与我们身边的下一家有限合伙人竞争。”他补充说,该公司模式的第二个支柱是专注于找出大麻领域的经济回报在哪里赚取。

The Canadian Vs. American Cannabis Market 

加拿大VS。美国大麻市场

George believes that the Canadian cannabis industry will form some version of an oligopoly, with several large and a number of very important smaller players in the space, he told the Benzinga conference. 

乔治相信加拿大大麻产业将形成某种形式的寡头垄断他在Benzinga会议上表示,该领域有几个大公司和一些非常重要的小公司。

“I would say that the regulatory framework in Canada is quite challenging and dysfunctional,” the CEO said, highlighting issues such as excise taxes that he said are burdensome, different regulations from province to province, rules around how many retail doors you can own or manage and permissible levels of vertical integration, and nonsensical product level restrictions

“我要说的是加拿大的监管框架非常具有挑战性和功能失调,这位首席执行官说,他强调了以下问题消费税他说那是沉重的负担,各省有不同的规定,关于您可以拥有或管理的零售门数量以及允许的垂直整合级别的规则,以及无稽之谈的产品级别限制.

He called for "some common-sense reform" in Canada. 

他呼吁加拿大进行“一些常识性的改革”。

When it comes to America, George said it has a clear, massive total addressable market with many opportunities, but also a lack of capital, an issue many people assume federal legalization would resolve.

谈到美国,乔治说,美国有一个明确的、巨大的总目标市场,有很多机会,但也缺乏资金,许多人认为联邦合法化可以解决这个问题。

What are we going to see in case of federal legalization is the wrong companies getting capitalized and too much competition, the CEO said. 

这位首席执行官表示:在联邦合法化的情况下,我们将看到的是错误的公司被资本化和太多的竞争。

“It’s highly likely that some of the same mistakes we've seen in Canada will actually be made in the U.S. as well.”

“我们在加拿大看到的一些同样的错误很有可能在美国也会重蹈覆辙。”

CEO Excited About Sundial’s Future 

首席执行官对太阳表盘的未来感到兴奋

When it comes to the company, George revealed that Sundial is thrilled about the two pillars of its business and about the recent transaction with Alcanna, which should be closed before the end of the year.

在谈到该公司时,乔治透露,阳光表盘对其业务的两大支柱以及最近与阿尔坎纳的交易感到兴奋,这笔交易应该会在今年年底前完成。

“We'd love to see our credit portfolio grow from over $300 million today to north [$500 million] in the coming months,” George concluded.

“我们希望看到我们的信贷组合从今天的3亿美元增长到北方。[5亿美元]在接下来的几个月里,“乔治总结道。

Photo: Courtesy of Rick Proctor on Unsplash. 

图片来源:Rick Proctor在Unspash上提供。

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