[SNDL Q&A] Will the lack of profitability be a problem for SNDL?
Key Takeaway:
• Sundial Growers CEO Zach George noted that the company faced headwinds in its last two quarters from the repositioning of its cultivation operations.
• Sundial Growers is going to continue to stay focused on the premium segment, the core segment.
• Sundial Growers plans to have some innovation in the vape segments on the hydrocarbon side to provide further differentiation, which drives better value for consumers and be accretive to their margin mix.
• Sundial Growers CEO Zach George noted that the company faced headwinds in its last two quarters from the repositioning of its cultivation operations.
• Sundial Growers is going to continue to stay focused on the premium segment, the core segment.
• Sundial Growers plans to have some innovation in the vape segments on the hydrocarbon side to provide further differentiation, which drives better value for consumers and be accretive to their margin mix.
$SNDL Inc (SNDL.US)$ reported net cannabis revenue of 13.9 million in Canadian dollars in the fourth quarter, up 8% quarter over quarter but down more than 5% year over year. This result topped the average analyst's revenue estimate of CA$12.1 million. The company's transition from wholesale to branded retail sales achieved incremental improvement in the fourth quarter, compared to the third quarter. The company said that it harvested its highest-potency cannabis flower ever in February. That could bode well for Sundial's market positioning of its retail cannabis products. Come and see what happened in the Q4 2020 earnings call!
This article is a script from the Q&A session of Sundial Growers's earnings call on March 18. In order to facilitate reading, we have made appropriate cuts. If you want to know more details, you can click the link provided below to re-watch the earnings call.
Q: Why the ongoing writedowns, what are they a result of? Is it just ongoing market pricing changes and resulting in you taking continued writedowns?
A: First, we see this historic performance as unacceptable. And with the change in consumer preferences and this potency-chasing behavior that we've witnessed, by the end of the year, a product that even at 20% potency would be less liquid and be very difficult to move through retail. So we've been making aggressive changes to improve outcomes and ensure that we're delivering and delighting consumers. And that has led to us having certain product that needed to be impaired from an accounting perspective to the extent that our terpene profiles and potency on-average harvest increase as they have, those writedowns should diminish substantially. You also have pricing impacting that dynamic as a lever. And as you well know, the value segment is really on its way to effectively sort of blocking out the sun in the space, north of 50% of the industry in Canada is in the buy segment. And we continue on a weekly basis to see prices dropping.
A: First, we see this historic performance as unacceptable. And with the change in consumer preferences and this potency-chasing behavior that we've witnessed, by the end of the year, a product that even at 20% potency would be less liquid and be very difficult to move through retail. So we've been making aggressive changes to improve outcomes and ensure that we're delivering and delighting consumers. And that has led to us having certain product that needed to be impaired from an accounting perspective to the extent that our terpene profiles and potency on-average harvest increase as they have, those writedowns should diminish substantially. You also have pricing impacting that dynamic as a lever. And as you well know, the value segment is really on its way to effectively sort of blocking out the sun in the space, north of 50% of the industry in Canada is in the buy segment. And we continue on a weekly basis to see prices dropping.
Q: How much longer do you need to continue to kind of -- that your cultivation practices dial in that data-driven approach to actually really scale your revenues?
A: Our focus in 2020 was to make that transition to branded sales versus wholesale. We -- 75% of our total revenue mix was in branded versus just 20% in 2019. Not all revenue is created equally. If I was to kind of point you in a direction around how we're thinking about it, is our branded product sales grew exponentially, actually by 410% when you think about 2019 versus 2020. That's solid. And we're seeing the benefits of that from penetrating the market. Not all revenue is created equally. So we've got to be really mindful of not getting into that rat race when it comes to price compression and contributing to the consistent price deflation that we're seeing. So we're going to continue to stay focused on the premium segment, the core segment. We've also significantly invested in our in-house sales breadth of coverage. Foundational to that is cultivation excellence, and we feel pretty confident about that.
A: Our focus in 2020 was to make that transition to branded sales versus wholesale. We -- 75% of our total revenue mix was in branded versus just 20% in 2019. Not all revenue is created equally. If I was to kind of point you in a direction around how we're thinking about it, is our branded product sales grew exponentially, actually by 410% when you think about 2019 versus 2020. That's solid. And we're seeing the benefits of that from penetrating the market. Not all revenue is created equally. So we've got to be really mindful of not getting into that rat race when it comes to price compression and contributing to the consistent price deflation that we're seeing. So we're going to continue to stay focused on the premium segment, the core segment. We've also significantly invested in our in-house sales breadth of coverage. Foundational to that is cultivation excellence, and we feel pretty confident about that.
Q: Do you expect for the next quarter, is this a similar revenue mix here. Or do you expect, for example, vapes to increase share or decrease for that matter?
A: You're right to say, from a mix standpoint, it is accretive for us. Again, vape is like any other segments we're in. It's facing a lot of new industry players and they're differentiating by price. And I think that's going to create a bit of a headwind for us in regards to how we continue to compete at the prices and the value equation for the consumer. We do have some very exciting innovation that we're looking to launch in 2021 in the vape segments. That will be line primarily with Top Leaf and Sundial, and we're currently in two formats of extraction on that vape, which is ethanol and CO2. Certainly on the hydrocarbon side to provide further differentiation, which should drive better value for consumers and obviously be accretive to our margin mix.
A: You're right to say, from a mix standpoint, it is accretive for us. Again, vape is like any other segments we're in. It's facing a lot of new industry players and they're differentiating by price. And I think that's going to create a bit of a headwind for us in regards to how we continue to compete at the prices and the value equation for the consumer. We do have some very exciting innovation that we're looking to launch in 2021 in the vape segments. That will be line primarily with Top Leaf and Sundial, and we're currently in two formats of extraction on that vape, which is ethanol and CO2. Certainly on the hydrocarbon side to provide further differentiation, which should drive better value for consumers and obviously be accretive to our margin mix.
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Lexy Gomez : 沒有
Lou Blacksail : 我覺得我看到這會來了在收入之前撤出來以確保。這是一個長期的遊戲,投資者會考慮未來的努力。我認為這家公司是一個很好的 LT 投資的原因有多個賣點。此外,當公司有空閒現金可以用來繼續使業務蓬勃發展,並且充分看到核心基礎轉型,並在未來將其業務更多轉型為優質產品並將業務擴展到美國時,利潤並不是一切。
swilki18 : 長期遊戲
jrake : 我不明白為什麼人們不了解這個行業。您的花朵含量越高,您的製作就越多。如果您將 THC 水平保持在 25% 或更高,我認為我們公司會起飛。
我目前需要 27 到 30% 來幫助我的背部捏神經。請專注於效力水平!
Daniel Lang : Sundial 是一種持有和看到的遊戲; 因為他們有資金來發展業務, 他們致力於優質, 產品多樣化以及客戶滿意度。收入上升四分之一上季度,他們沒有債務。日晷是好買的【$SNDL Inc (SNDL.US)$] 並持有股票 $!他們有很多未來的利潤要獲得。還有仍然是 IPO 的問題???,有人會購買這項業務,他們會出售 $$$; 日晷種植者公司是 賺錢者 如果他們很快 IPO,他們可能會暴漲 相當 。如果你想賺一些錢 購買並持有日晷,也就是說,在我知情的看法!!
jrake Daniel Lang : 我無法同意更多,當美國在美聯儲層面上取消時,站在這些公司後面的我們所有人都將蓬勃發展。
掛在那裡日晷發明家的。它會發生!
oo420show : 美妙的