Is Post Holdings (NYSE:POST) Using Too Much Debt?
Is Post Holdings (NYSE:POST) Using Too Much Debt?
Legendary fund manager Li Lu (who Charlie Munger backed) once said, 'The biggest investment risk is not the volatility of prices, but whether you will suffer a permanent loss of capital.' So it seems the smart money knows that debt - which is usually involved in bankruptcies - is a very important factor, when you assess how risky a company is. We note that Post Holdings, Inc. (NYSE:POST) does have debt on its balance sheet. But should shareholders be worried about its use of debt?
傳奇基金經理李錄(得到查理·芒格支持)曾說:「最大的投資風險不是價格的波動性,而是你是否會遭受資本的永久損失。」因此,聰明的投資者知道負債 - 通常與破產有關 - 是評估公司風險程度時非常重要的因素。我們注意到,Post Holdings, Inc.(紐交所:POST)的資產負債表上確實有債務。但股東是否應該擔心公司對債務的使用?
What Risk Does Debt Bring?
債務帶來了什麼風險?
Debt and other liabilities become risky for a business when it cannot easily fulfill those obligations, either with free cash flow or by raising capital at an attractive price. Part and parcel of capitalism is the process of 'creative destruction' where failed businesses are mercilessly liquidated by their bankers. While that is not too common, we often do see indebted companies permanently diluting shareholders because lenders force them to raise capital at a distressed price. Having said that, the most common situation is where a company manages its debt reasonably well - and to its own advantage. The first step when considering a company's debt levels is to consider its cash and debt together.
當一家公司無法通過自由現金流或者以有吸引力的價格籌集資本的方式輕鬆履行債務義務的時候,債務和其他負債就會變得很危險。資本主義的一部分是「創造性破壞」過程,失敗的企業會被其銀行家無情地清算。儘管這並不是太常見,我們經常看到負債累累的公司因貸款人迫使其以一個窘迫的價格籌集資本,從而對股東進行永久性的稀釋。話雖如此,最常見的情況是公司合理控制其債務,以此獲得優勢。考慮一家公司的債務水平時的第一步是將其現金和負債合併考慮。
What Is Post Holdings's Net Debt?
Post Holdings的淨債務是多少?
As you can see below, Post Holdings had US$6.40b of debt, at June 2024, which is about the same as the year before. You can click the chart for greater detail. However, it does have US$337.4m in cash offsetting this, leading to net debt of about US$6.06b.
如下所示,截至2024年6月,Post Holdings的債務爲64億美元,與前一年大致相同。您可以點擊圖表以獲取更多詳細信息。然而,這筆債務有3374萬美元的現金抵消,導致淨債務約爲60.6億美元。
A Look At Post Holdings' Liabilities
查看post holdings的負債情況
According to the last reported balance sheet, Post Holdings had liabilities of US$857.2m due within 12 months, and liabilities of US$7.32b due beyond 12 months. On the other hand, it had cash of US$337.4m and US$536.1m worth of receivables due within a year. So it has liabilities totalling US$7.30b more than its cash and near-term receivables, combined.
根據最近披露的資產負債表顯示,Post holdings有85720萬美元的負債到期在12個月內,及732億美元的負債到期超過12個月。另一方面,它擁有33740萬美元的現金和53610萬美元的應收款,在一年內到期。因此,它的負債總額比現金和近期應收款合計多730億美元。
When you consider that this deficiency exceeds the company's US$6.81b market capitalization, you might well be inclined to review the balance sheet intently. In the scenario where the company had to clean up its balance sheet quickly, it seems likely shareholders would suffer extensive dilution.
考慮到這一缺口超過公司681億美元的市值,您可能會傾向於仔細審查資產負債表。在公司需要迅速清理資產負債表的情況下,股東可能會遭受嚴重的稀釋。
We use two main ratios to inform us about debt levels relative to earnings. The first is net debt divided by earnings before interest, tax, depreciation, and amortization (EBITDA), while the second is how many times its earnings before interest and tax (EBIT) covers its interest expense (or its interest cover, for short). This way, we consider both the absolute quantum of the debt, as well as the interest rates paid on it.
Service Corporation International的債務是其EBITDA的3.5倍,而其EBIT可覆蓋其利息開支的3.7倍。綜合考慮,雖然我們不希望看到債務水平上升,但我們認爲它可以應對當前的槓桿。好消息是,Service Corporation International在過去12個月中將其EBIT提高了2.9%,從而逐漸降低了其相對於收益的債務水平。毫無疑問,我們從資產負債表中獲得了有關債務的大部分內容。但是,相對於資產負債表,更重要的是未來收益,這將決定Service Corporation International維持健康資產負債表的能力。如果您關注未來,您可以查看此免費報告,其中有分析師的利潤預測。
Post Holdings's debt is 4.7 times its EBITDA, and its EBIT cover its interest expense 2.8 times over. This suggests that while the debt levels are significant, we'd stop short of calling them problematic. Looking on the bright side, Post Holdings boosted its EBIT by a silky 41% in the last year. Like a mother's loving embrace of a newborn that sort of growth builds resilience, putting the company in a stronger position to manage its debt. When analysing debt levels, the balance sheet is the obvious place to start. But ultimately the future profitability of the business will decide if Post Holdings can strengthen its balance sheet over time. So if you want to see what the professionals think, you might find this free report on analyst profit forecasts to be interesting.
Post holdings的債務是其EBITDA的4.7倍,EBIT能夠覆蓋利息支出的2.8倍。這意味着儘管債務水平相當高,但我們不會輕易稱其有問題。從好的一面來看,Post holdings在過去一年中將其EBIT提升了41%。像母親對待新生嬰兒的愛一樣,這種增長有助於增強韌性,使公司處於更強大的位置來管理其債務。在分析債務水平時,資產負債表是開始的明顯地方。但最終業務未來的盈利能力將決定post holdings是否能夠長期加強其資產負債表。因此,如果您想知道專業人士的看法,您可能會發現分析師盈利預測的這份免費報告很有趣。
But our final consideration is also important, because a company cannot pay debt with paper profits; it needs cold hard cash. So it's worth checking how much of that EBIT is backed by free cash flow. During the last three years, Post Holdings produced sturdy free cash flow equating to 56% of its EBIT, about what we'd expect. This free cash flow puts the company in a good position to pay down debt, when appropriate.
但我們的最終考慮也很重要,因爲公司不能用賬面利潤支付債務;它需要現金。因此,值得檢查有多少EBIT是由自由現金流支撐的。在過去三年中,post holdings產生了穩健的自由現金流,相當於其EBIT的56%,這與我們的預期相符。這種自由現金流使公司有能力在適當時償還債務。
Our View
我們的觀點
Post Holdings's net debt to EBITDA and interest cover definitely weigh on it, in our esteem. But its EBIT growth rate tells a very different story, and suggests some resilience. When we consider all the factors discussed, it seems to us that Post Holdings is taking some risks with its use of debt. While that debt can boost returns, we think the company has enough leverage now. When analysing debt levels, the balance sheet is the obvious place to start. But ultimately, every company can contain risks that exist outside of the balance sheet. Be aware that Post Holdings is showing 1 warning sign in our investment analysis , you should know about...
Post Holdings的淨債務/息稅折舊及攤銷前利潤(EBITDA)比和利息保障倍數確實對其產生了影響,但從我們的角度來看,其EBIT增長率講述了一種截然不同的故事,並表明了一些韌性。當我們考慮了所有討論過的因素,對我們來說,Post Holdings在債務使用上存在一定風險。雖然債務可以推動回報,但我們認爲公司現在已經有足夠的槓桿。在分析債務水平時,資產負債表是明顯的起點。但最終,每家公司都可能存在超出資產負債表之外的風險。請注意,Post Holdings在我們的投資分析中顯示了1個警示信號,你應該知道…
If you're interested in investing in businesses that can grow profits without the burden of debt, then check out this free list of growing businesses that have net cash on the balance sheet.
如果您有興趣投資能夠在不負債的情況下增長利潤的企業,請查看這份免費列表,其中列出了在資產負債表上擁有淨現金的成長型企業。
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