We Think Shenzhen Gas (SHSE:601139) Is Taking Some Risk With Its Debt
We Think Shenzhen Gas (SHSE:601139) Is Taking Some Risk With Its Debt
Legendary fund manager Li Lu (who Charlie Munger backed) once said, 'The biggest investment risk is not the volatility of prices, but whether you will suffer a permanent loss of capital.' It's only natural to consider a company's balance sheet when you examine how risky it is, since debt is often involved when a business collapses. We note that Shenzhen Gas Corporation Ltd. (SHSE:601139) does have debt on its balance sheet. But is this debt a concern to shareholders?
傳奇基金經理李露(由查理·芒格支持)曾經說過:「最大的投資風險不是價格的波動,而是你是否會遭受永久的資本損失。」當你檢查公司的資產負債表的風險時,考慮它的資產負債表是很自然的,因爲企業倒閉時通常會涉及債務。我們注意到,深圳燃氣股份有限公司(SHSE: 601139)的資產負債表上確實有債務。但是這筆債務是股東關心的問題嗎?
When Is Debt Dangerous?
債務何時危險?
Generally speaking, debt only becomes a real problem when a company can't easily pay it off, either by raising capital or with its own cash flow. Ultimately, if the company can't fulfill its legal obligations to repay debt, shareholders could walk away with nothing. While that is not too common, we often do see indebted companies permanently diluting shareholders because lenders force them to raise capital at a distressed price. Of course, plenty of companies use debt to fund growth, without any negative consequences. The first thing to do when considering how much debt a business uses is to look at its cash and debt together.
一般而言,只有當公司無法通過籌集資金或使用自己的現金流輕鬆還清債務時,債務才會成爲真正的問題。歸根結底,如果公司無法履行償還債務的法律義務,股東可能會一無所有地離開。儘管這種情況並不常見,但我們經常看到負債公司永久稀釋股東,因爲貸款人迫使他們以不良价格籌集資金。當然,許多公司使用債務爲增長提供資金,而不會產生任何負面後果。在考慮企業使用多少債務時,要做的第一件事是將現金和債務放在一起考慮。
What Is Shenzhen Gas's Net Debt?
深圳燃氣的淨負債是多少?
As you can see below, Shenzhen Gas had CN¥16.6b of debt, at September 2024, which is about the same as the year before. You can click the chart for greater detail. However, it also had CN¥5.70b in cash, and so its net debt is CN¥10.9b.
如下所示,截至2024年9月,深圳燃氣有166元人民幣的債務,與前一年大致相同。您可以單擊圖表以獲取更多詳細信息。但是,它也有57元人民幣的現金,因此其淨負債爲109元人民幣。
How Strong Is Shenzhen Gas' Balance Sheet?
深圳天然氣的資產負債表有多強?
The latest balance sheet data shows that Shenzhen Gas had liabilities of CN¥20.7b due within a year, and liabilities of CN¥5.97b falling due after that. Offsetting these obligations, it had cash of CN¥5.70b as well as receivables valued at CN¥4.85b due within 12 months. So its liabilities outweigh the sum of its cash and (near-term) receivables by CN¥16.1b.
最新的資產負債表數據顯示,深圳燃氣在一年內到期的負債爲207元人民幣,此後到期的負債爲59.7元人民幣。除了這些債務外,它還有價值57元人民幣的現金和價值48.5元人民幣的應收賬款將在12個月內到期。因此,其負債超過其現金和(短期)應收賬款總額161元人民幣。
This deficit is considerable relative to its market capitalization of CN¥21.3b, so it does suggest shareholders should keep an eye on Shenzhen Gas' use of debt. This suggests shareholders would be heavily diluted if the company needed to shore up its balance sheet in a hurry.
相對於其213元人民幣的市值,這一赤字相當可觀,因此這確實表明股東應密切關注深圳天然氣的債務使用情況。這表明,如果公司需要迅速支撐資產負債表,股東將被嚴重稀釋。
In order to size up a company's debt relative to its earnings, we calculate its net debt divided by its earnings before interest, tax, depreciation, and amortization (EBITDA) and its earnings before interest and tax (EBIT) divided by its interest expense (its interest cover). The advantage of this approach is that we take into account both the absolute quantum of debt (with net debt to EBITDA) and the actual interest expenses associated with that debt (with its interest cover ratio).
爲了擴大公司相對於收益的負債規模,我們計算其淨負債除以利息、稅項、折舊和攤銷前的收益(EBITDA),將其利息和稅前收益(EBIT)除以利息支出(利息保障)。這種方法的優勢在於,我們既考慮了債務的絕對數量(包括淨負債與息稅折舊攤銷前利潤),也考慮了與該債務相關的實際利息支出(及其利息覆蓋率)。
Shenzhen Gas's net debt is 3.5 times its EBITDA, which is a significant but still reasonable amount of leverage. But its EBIT was about 16.6 times its interest expense, implying the company isn't really paying a high cost to maintain that level of debt. Even were the low cost to prove unsustainable, that is a good sign. Notably Shenzhen Gas's EBIT was pretty flat over the last year. Ideally it can diminish its debt load by kick-starting earnings growth. When analysing debt levels, the balance sheet is the obvious place to start. But it is future earnings, more than anything, that will determine Shenzhen Gas's ability to maintain a healthy balance sheet going forward. So if you want to see what the professionals think, you might find this free report on analyst profit forecasts to be interesting.
深圳燃氣的淨負債是其息稅折舊攤銷前利潤的3.5倍,這是一個可觀但仍然合理的槓桿率。但是其息稅前利潤約爲利息支出的16.6倍,這意味着該公司並沒有爲維持這一債務水平付出高昂的代價。即使事實證明低成本是不可持續的,這也是一個好兆頭。值得注意的是,深圳燃氣的息稅前利潤與去年持平。理想情況下,它可以通過啓動收益增長來減少債務負擔。在分析債務水平時,資產負債表是顯而易見的起點。但是,未來的收益比什麼都重要,將決定深圳燃氣未來保持健康資產負債表的能力。因此,如果你想看看專業人士的想法,你可能會發現這份關於分析師利潤預測的免費報告很有趣。
Finally, a business needs free cash flow to pay off debt; accounting profits just don't cut it. So it's worth checking how much of that EBIT is backed by free cash flow. Over the last three years, Shenzhen Gas saw substantial negative free cash flow, in total. While investors are no doubt expecting a reversal of that situation in due course, it clearly does mean its use of debt is more risky.
最後,企業需要自由現金流來償還債務;會計利潤根本無法減少債務。因此,值得檢查一下該息稅前利潤中有多少是由自由現金流支持的。在過去的三年中,深圳燃氣總共出現了可觀的負自由現金流。儘管投資者無疑預計這種情況將在適當的時候逆轉,但這顯然意味着其使用債務的風險更大。
Our View
我們的觀點
We'd go so far as to say Shenzhen Gas's conversion of EBIT to free cash flow was disappointing. But on the bright side, its interest cover is a good sign, and makes us more optimistic. It's also worth noting that Shenzhen Gas is in the Gas Utilities industry, which is often considered to be quite defensive. Looking at the balance sheet and taking into account all these factors, we do believe that debt is making Shenzhen Gas stock a bit risky. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but we'd generally feel more comfortable with less leverage. There's no doubt that we learn most about debt from the balance sheet. However, not all investment risk resides within the balance sheet - far from it. Be aware that Shenzhen Gas is showing 2 warning signs in our investment analysis , you should know about...
我們甚至可以說,深圳燃氣將息稅前利潤轉換爲自由現金流令人失望。但好的一面是,它的利息保障是一個好兆頭,也使我們更加樂觀。還值得注意的是,深圳燃氣屬於燃氣公用事業行業,人們通常認爲該行業具有很強的防禦性。從資產負債表來看,考慮到所有這些因素,我們確實認爲債務使深圳燃氣的股票有點風險。這不一定是一件壞事,但我們通常會因爲降低槓桿率而感到更自在。毫無疑問,我們從資產負債表中學到的關於債務的知識最多。但是,並非所有的投資風險都存在於資產負債表中,遠非如此。請注意,深圳燃氣在我們的投資分析中顯示出兩個警告信號,您應該了解...
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歸根結底,通常最好專注於沒有淨負債的公司。您可以訪問我們的此類公司的特別名單(所有公司都有利潤增長的記錄)。它是免費的。
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