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Microsoft Q1 2024 Earnings Call Transcript

Microsoft Q1 2024 Earnings Call Transcript

微軟 2024 年第一季度業績電話會議記錄
moomoo資訊 ·  2023/10/24 22:14  · 電話會議

Company Management

公司管理

Amy Hood - EVP & CFO

Brett Iversen - VP, IR

Satya Nadella - Chairman & CEO

艾米·胡德-執行副總裁兼首席財務官

佈雷特·艾弗森--IR副總裁

薩蒂亞·納德拉--董事長兼首席執行官

Analysts

分析員

Bradley Sills - Bank of America

Brent Bracelin - Piper Sandler

Gregg Moskowitz - Mizuho

Karl Keirstead - UBS

Keith Weiss - Morgan Stanley

Mark Moerdler - Bernstein Research.

Raimo Lenschow - Barclays

布拉德利·希爾斯--美國銀行

布倫特·佈雷斯林--派珀·桑德勒

格雷格·莫斯科維茨-瑞穗

卡爾·基爾斯特德-瑞銀

基思·韋斯-摩根士丹利

梅克·莫德勒-伯恩斯坦研究公司。

Raimo Lenschow-巴克萊

Keith Weiss

基思·韋斯

Thank you for taking the question and very nice quarter. The pace of innovation you guys have been putting out has been pretty amazing. And the new products garnering traction probably faster than we've expected on our side of the equation. But we're also working in an overall spending environment, that remains volatile, and I think investors are getting more concerned on it.

謝謝你回答這個問題,這一節很不錯。你們推出的創新步伐令人驚嘆。而新產品獲得吸引力的速度可能比我們預期的要快。但我們也在整體支出環境中工作,這種環境仍然不穩定,我認為投資者對此越來越擔心。

So two questions on this, one, based on sort of the new products and the innovation, do you think you guys can sustain the type of commercial growth that we saw in Q1 as we go through the year or is the environment too tricky for that? And then when it relates to investment, Amy, you've been able to keep overall OpEx growth very low, and it was very low this quarter. At some point, should we be thinking about a return to a more aggressive investment behind all this product innovation?

關於這一點,有兩個問題,第一,基於新產品和創新,你們認為你們能夠保持我們在今年第一季度看到的那種商業增長,還是環境太複雜了?然後談到投資,艾米,你一直能夠將整體運營支出增長保持在非常低的水準,本季度的增長也非常低。在某種程度上,我們是否應該考慮在所有這些產品創新背後回歸更激進的投資?

Satya Nadella

薩蒂亞·納德拉

Maybe I can start, Keith, and Amy you can add to it. Overall there are multiple things, Keith, they're all happening obviously simultaneously. If you just take Azure and try to characterize, where's the growth for Azure coming from or what sort of drivers for Azure numbers, there are three things all happening in parallel. Like, for example, take cloud migrations. A good reminder of where we are and even the core cloud migration story is the new Oracle announcement.

也許我可以開始了,基思,艾米,你們可以再加上。總體而言,有很多事情,基思,它們顯然都是同時發生的。如果你只是以Azure為例,試著描述一下,Azure的增長來自哪裡,或者Azure數位的驅動因素是什麼,有三件事同時發生。例如,以雲遷移為例。甲骨文的新宣佈很好地提醒了我們所處的位置,甚至是雲遷移的核心故事。

Once we announced that the Oracle databases are going to be available on Azure, we saw a bunch of unlock from new customers who have significant Oracle estates that have not yet moved to the cloud because they needed to rendezvous with the rest of the app estate in one single cloud. And so we're excited about that. So in some sense, even the financial services sector, for example, is a good place where there's a lot of Oracle that still needs to move to the cloud.

當我們宣佈Oracle資料庫將在Azure上可用時,我們看到了一大批新客戶的解鎖,這些客戶擁有大量的Oracle資產,但尚未遷移到雲中,因為他們需要在一個雲中與其餘應用程式資產匯合。因此,我們對此感到興奮。因此,在某種意義上,即使是金融服務行業,也是一個很好的地方,在那裡,仍有許多甲骨文需要遷移到雲端。

The second thing, of course, is the workloads start, then workloads get optimized, and then new workloads start, and that cycle continues. We'll lap some of those optimization cycles that were fairly extreme perhaps in the second half of our fiscal. And the third thing is, for us, that's unique and different is new workload starts around AI. Given our leadership position, we are seeing complete new projects start, which are AI projects. And as you know, AI projects are not just about AI meters, they have lots of other cloud meters as well. So that sort of gives you one side of what's happening in terms of enterprise.

當然,第二件事是工作負載開始,然後工作負載得到優化,然後新的工作負載開始,這個迴圈繼續下去。我們將完成一些相當極端的優化週期,也許是在本財年的後半部分。第三件事是,對我們來說,這是獨一無二的,不同的是新的工作負荷圍繞著人工智慧開始。鑑於我們的領導地位,我們正在看到全新的專案開始,這是人工智慧專案。正如你所知道的,人工智慧專案不僅僅是關於人工智慧計量器,他們還有很多其他的雲計。因此,這可以讓你從一個側面瞭解企業正在發生的事情。

The other piece is on the SaaS side, obviously, again, this is a new product that's going to go through the enterprise adoption cycle. The results around productivity, which we demonstrated with GitHub Copilot, is what's giving us good confidence and our customers, more importantly, good confidence around what these products represent in terms of value. And so we are in the very early innings there, and so we look forward to seeing the traction for these products going forward.

另一塊是SaaS,顯然,這是一款將經歷企業採用週期的新產品。我們通過GitHub Copilot展示的關於工作效率的結果,給我們和我們的客戶帶來了良好的信心,更重要的是,給了我們對這些產品在價值方面所代表的良好信心。因此,我們正處於非常早期的階段,因此我們期待著看到這些產品未來的吸引力。

Amy Hood

艾米·胡德

Keith, maybe just a few things to add and then I'll talk a little bit about the operating leverage, which is the second part of your question. In general, we saw very consistent execution from Q4 to Q1, and that's what we're talking about into Q2. I think that speaks to our value prop, which is where Satya went. It speaks to making sure that customers are getting a very quick return on value, real productivity improvement, real savings, so that when we're asking at renewal or talking about E5 upgrades or talking about AI services, that those come with real promises of high-value scenarios. And so I think that is an important piece as you think about, stability and commercial demand.

基思,也許只需要補充幾點,然後我會稍微談一談運營槓桿,這是你問題的第二部分。總體而言,從第四季度到第一季度,我們看到了非常一致的執行,這就是我們在第二季度談論的情況。我認為這說明瞭我們的價值支柱,這就是薩蒂亞去的地方。它意味著確保客戶獲得非常快的價值回報,真正的生產力提高,真正的節省,所以當我們在續訂或談論E5升級或談論人工智慧服務時,這些都伴隨著高價值場景的真正承諾。因此,我認為這是你考慮的一個重要因素,穩定和商業需求。

And then if you think about the nature of your question, it was partially why I talked about in my full-year guidance that, now, even with the addition of Activision and purchase accounting impacts, and integration impacts, we still feel confident we can deliver consistent operating margins to last year. And it speaks to, I think, some of the improvements, we're making in Azure and even in Microsoft 365 gross margins, even in the core of the commercial cloud.

然後,如果您思考您的問題的性質,這是我在全年指導中提到的部分原因,即現在,即使增加了Activision和採購會計的影響,以及整合的影響,我們仍然有信心實現與去年一致的運營利潤率。我認為,這說明瞭我們在Azure甚至微軟365的毛利率方面所做的一些改進,甚至是在商業雲的核心。

It speaks to the pace at which we are delivering AI revenue with the increasing cost expense and capital investment ahead with the demand we see. And, although you're right, our operating expense comparables in H2 get more challenging than in H1, we're really focused on making sure that every dollar we put and commit is back to the priorities we talked about, which is commercial cloud leadership and leading the AI wave. And so I think that focus is really helping on both execution and leverage.

這說明瞭我們提供人工智慧收入的速度,以及隨著我們看到的需求而增加的成本支出和資本投資。而且,儘管你說得對,我們在H2的運營成本可比性比在H1更具挑戰性,但我們真的專注於確保我們投入和投入的每一美元都回到了我們談論的優先事項上,即商業雲領導地位和引領人工智慧浪潮。因此,我認為這種關注對執行力和槓桿率都有幫助。

Keith Weiss

基思·韋斯

Excellent. Thank you, guys.

太棒了。謝謝,夥計們。

Brett Iversen

佈雷特·艾弗森

Thanks, Keith. Joe, next question, please.

謝謝你,基思。Joe,請提出下一個問題。

Mark Moerdler

梅克·莫德勒

Thank you very much and congratulations on a really strong quarter. AI has been far stronger than expected, beat your guidance for Azure this quarter. And while you discussed higher utilization and more GPUs have helped, has the fact that Microsoft has a full AI devstack Copilot reference architecture and plugin architecture bidding a meaningful factor, not just from a revenue perspective, but also even potentially from a margin perspective? In addition, can you give us any color on whether Azure GPU is predominantly model training or are we seeing a lot of inferencing yet from clients? Thanks.

非常感謝,祝賀你們取得了非常強勁的季度業績。人工智慧已經遠遠超過了預期,超過了你對Azure本季度的指導。雖然你討論了更高的利用率和更多的GPU有所幫助,但微軟擁有完整的AI DevStack Copilot參考架構和插件架構這一事實是否具有重要意義,不僅從收入角度來看,甚至從利潤率角度來看也是如此?此外,你能給我們任何顏色的Azure圖形處理器是主要的模型培訓,或我們看到許多推斷從客戶?謝謝。

Satya Nadella

薩蒂亞·納德拉

No. Thank you for the question, Mark. Yeah, it is true that we have -- the approach we have taken is a full stack approach all the way from whether it's ChatGPT or Bing Chat or all our Copilots, all share the same model. So in some sense, one of the things that we do have is very, very high leverage of the one model that we used -- which we trained, and then the one model that we are doing inferencing at scale. And that advantage sort of trickles down all the way to both utilization internally, utilization of third parties, and also over time, you can see the sort of stack optimization all the way to the silicon because the abstraction layer to which the developers are riding is much higher up than low-level kernels if you will.

不是的。謝謝你的問題,梅克。是的,我們確實有--我們採取的方法是全套方法,無論是ChatGPT、Bing Chat還是我們所有的副駕駛,都共享相同的模式。因此,在某種意義上,我們擁有的其中一件事是我們使用的一個模型的槓桿率非常非常高--我們訓練了這個模型,然後我們正在進行大規模推理的一個模型。隨著時間的推移,這種優勢可以一直滲透到內部利用率、第三方利用率,以及隨著時間的推移,您可以看到堆棧優化一直到矽片,因為開發人員使用的抽象層比低級別內核要高得多。

So, therefore, I think there is a fundamental approach we took, which was a technical approach of saying we'll have Copilots and Copilot stack all available. That doesn't mean we don't have people doing training for open source models or proprietary models. We also have a bunch of open source models. We have a bunch of fine-tuning happening, a bunch of RLHF happening. So there's all kinds of ways people use it. But the thing is, we have scale leverage of one large model that was trained and one large model that's being used for inference across all our first-party SaaS apps, as well as our API in our Azure AI service…

因此,我認為我們採取了一種基本的方法,即技術方法,即我們將擁有所有可用的副駕駛和副駕駛堆棧。這並不意味著我們沒有人為開源模型或專有模型做培訓。我們還有一大堆開源模型。我們有一些微調正在發生,一些RLHF正在發生。所以人們有各種各樣的方式來使用它。但問題是,我們有一個經過訓練的大型模型和一個大型模型的規模利用,該大型模型用於我們所有的第一方SaaS應用程式以及我們的Azure AI服務…中的API

Amy Hood

艾米·胡德

And the reason, Mark, that's important is that it means, even beyond the point Satya made is that, when it comes to our ability to leverage the infrastructure that we're building out, we don't really have a preference in terms of how people are utilizing that infrastructure, whether it's through all the means that Satya mentioned. It gives us a good opportunity to see quick conversion into revenue.

梅克,這很重要的原因是,這意味著,即使超出薩蒂亞提出的觀點,當談到我們利用我們正在建設的基礎設施的能力時,我們並不真正偏愛人們如何利用這些基礎設施,無論是通過薩蒂亞提到的所有手段。這給了我們一個很好的機會,讓我們看到快速轉化為收入。

Satya Nadella

薩蒂亞·納德拉

Yeah. I mean, one other thing I'd just add to perhaps Mark's question as well as Keith's is, this platform transition, I think is very important for us to be very disciplined on both. I'll call our tech stack as well as our capital spend all to be concentrated. The lesson learned from the cloud side is -- we're not running a conglomerate of different businesses, it's all one tech stack up and down Microsoft's portfolio, and that, I think, is going to be very important because that discipline, given what the spend like -- it will look like for this AI transition any business that's not disciplined about their capital spend accruing across all their businesses could run into trouble.

嗯。我的意思是,我只想補充一件事,也許梅克和基思的問題是,這個平臺過渡,我認為對我們來說非常重要的是,我們在這兩個方面都要非常嚴格。我會把我們的技術堆棧以及我們的資本支出都集中在一起。從雲端學到的教訓是--我們不是在運營一個由不同業務組成的集團,而是微軟上下的所有技術組合,我認為,這將是非常重要的,因為考慮到支出情況,這一紀律將是非常重要的--在這種人工智慧轉型中,任何企業如果不對其所有業務的資本支出進行約束,可能會遇到麻煩。

Mark Moerdler

梅克·莫德勒

Extremely helpful. Thank you so much.

非常有幫助。非常感謝。

Brett Iversen

佈雷特·艾弗森

Thanks, Mark. Joe, next question, please.

謝謝,梅克。Joe,請提出下一個問題。

Brent Thill

布倫特·蒂爾

Thanks, Amy. Good to see the 12% growth. Many investors are asking, can you sustain double-digit growth, especially with a stronger AI boost coming in the next several quarters?

謝謝,艾米。很高興看到12%的增長。許多投資者都在問,你能維持兩位數的增長嗎,特別是在未來幾個季度人工智慧提振更強勁的情況下?

Amy Hood

艾米·胡德

As I said, Q1 was a strong start to the year, Q2 certainly implies that. We've talked about stability for Azure into the second half of the year looking at and in line with what we're seeing for Q2. And so I think we feel good about our ability to execute, but more importantly, our ability to continue to take share.

正如我所說,第一季度是今年的一個強勁開端,第二季度當然意味著這一點。我們已經討論了Azure在下半年的穩定性,並與我們在第二季度看到的情況保持一致。因此,我認為我們對自己的執行能力感到滿意,但更重要的是,我們有能力繼續佔據市場份額。

Brett Iversen

佈雷特·艾弗森

Thanks, Brent. Joe, next question, please.

謝謝,布倫特。Joe,請提出下一個問題。

Raimo Lenschow

雷莫·倫斯周

Thank you. You sound very optimistic about the opportunity in the office space with Copilot coming out now very soon. Can you speak a little bit about -- what you're seeing in the customer base that tested this already in terms of how excited they were -- the special features there, and what does it mean in terms of adoption curve for that going forward once you go GA on 1st of November? Thank you.

謝謝。你聽起來對辦公室的機會非常樂觀,因為Copilot現在很快就會出來。你能稍微談一下--你在已經測試過這一點的客戶群中看到了他們有多興奮--那裡的特殊功能,以及一旦你在11月1日正式上市,這對未來的採用曲線意味著什麼?謝謝。

Satya Nadella

薩蒂亞·納德拉

No. Thanks. The question, Ramo, the good news is two-fold, one is the fact that, what is 40% of the Fortune 100 are already in the preview and are using the product and I think you all have also done lots of checks and the feedback is very, very positive. And, in fact, the interesting thing is, it's not any one tool, right? Which is the feedback even sort of is very clear that it's the all up.

不是的。謝謝。問題是,拉莫,好消息有兩個,一個是,財富100強中40%的人已經在預覽版中並正在使用該產品,我想你們都做了很多檢查,反饋非常非常積極。事實上,有趣的是,它不是任何一個工具,對嗎?這就是反饋,甚至是非常清楚的是,一切都結束了。

You just keep hitting the Copilot button across every surface, right, whether it's in Word to create documents, in Excel to, do analysis, or PowerPoint or Outlook or Teams just like that. Clearly, the Teams meeting, which is an intelligent recap, it's not just a dumb transcript. It's like having a knowledge base of all your meetings that you can query and add to essentially the knowledge terms of your enterprise.

你只需在每個介面上不停地點擊Copilot按鈕,無論是在Word中創建文檔,在Excel中進行分析,還是在PowerPoint或Outlook或團隊中這樣做。顯然,團隊會議,這是一次明智的總結,而不僅僅是一份愚蠢的成績單。這就像擁有一個關於您所有會議的知識庫,您可以對其進行查詢,並基本上添加到企業的知識術語中。

And so we are seeing broad usage across and the interesting thing is, by different functions, whether it's in finance or in sales by roles, we are seeing productivity gains like we saw with developers and GitHub Copilot. So that's the data. We are very excited about our Ignite conference, where we will talk a lot more about all of the use cases and what's -- where's the value and give more prescriptive guidance on how people can deploy.

因此,我們看到了廣泛的使用,有趣的是,通過不同的功能,無論是在財務方面還是在按角色銷售方面,我們都看到了生產率的提高,就像我們在開發人員和GitHub Copilot中看到的那樣。這就是數據。我們對我們的Ignite大會感到非常興奮,我們將在會上更多地討論所有的用例以及什麼是--價值在哪裡,並就人們如何部署提供更規範的指導。

But so far so good, as far as the data is and the feedback is. And of course, this is an enterprise product, I mean, at the end of the day, we are grounded on enterprise cycle times in terms of adoption and ramp, and it's incrementally priced, so, therefore that all will apply still. But at least for something completely new to have this level of usage already and this level of excitement is something we're very, very pleased with.

但到目前為止,就數據和反饋而言,情況還不錯。當然,這是一種企業產品,我的意思是,歸根結底,我們是以企業週期時間為基礎的,在採用和提升方面,它是遞增定價的,因此,所有這些都將仍然適用。但至少對於一些全新的東西來說,已經有了這種級別的使用,這種級別的興奮是我們非常、非常高興的事情。

Raimo Lenschow

雷莫·倫斯周

Thank you.

謝謝。

Brett Iversen

佈雷特·艾弗森

Thanks, Raimo. Joe, next question, please.

謝謝你,雷莫。Joe,請提出下一個問題。

Karl Keirstead

卡爾·基爾斯特德

Okay. Great. Thanks, Amy. Congrats on the 28% constant currency Azure growth, that's terrific. I wanted to press you a little bit on the outlook for Azure. You're obviously guiding to a 1 to 2 point decel in December and then stable thereafter. But why would it be stable? Why wouldn't it accelerate in the -- in the second half of your fiscal year, if the AI contribution is increasing as you bring on more GPU capacity? Is this a function of perhaps continued Core ex-AI Azure spend optimization, continuing or maybe even getting slightly worse? Why couldn't we see some upside in that Azure number? I know you're trying to be conservative, but I'd just love to understand it? Thanks so much.

好吧。太棒了。謝謝,艾米。祝賀Azure貨幣持續增長28%,這真是太棒了。我想就Azure的前景給你一點壓力。很明顯,你會在12月份下降1到2個點,然後穩定下來。但為什麼會是穩定的呢?如果人工智慧的貢獻隨著你帶來更多的GPU能力而增加,為什麼不在--在你的財政年度的下半年--加速?這是不是一個持續的核心前AI Azure開支優化的函數,是持續的,甚至可能會變得略有惡化?為什麼我們看不到Azure數位的一些好處呢?我知道你在試著保守,但我只是想理解一下?非常感謝。

Amy Hood

艾米·胡德

Thanks, Karl. A couple of things. As I talked about Q2 and then into H2. We've been very consistent that the optimization trends have been consistent for us through a couple of quarters now. Customers are going to continue to do that. It's an important part of running workloads that is not new. There obviously were some quarters where it was more accelerated, but that is a pattern that is and has been a fundamental part of having customers, both make new room for new workload adoption and continue to build new capabilities.

謝謝,卡爾。有幾件事。當我談到第二季度,然後進入第二季度。我們一直非常一致地認為,在過去的幾個季度裡,優化趨勢對我們來說是一致的。客戶將繼續這樣做。這是運行工作負載的一個重要部分,這並不新鮮。顯然,有一些季度的速度加快了,但這是一種模式,無論是現在還是過去,這都是讓客戶為新工作負載採用騰出新空間並繼續構建新功能的基本部分。

And so I think that impact remains through the rest of the year, and my view is unchanged on that. And then of course, I think the key component has always been new workload starts. And at the scale we're talking about, being able to have stability in our Azure business, does mean that we will have a lot of new workload starts. And primarily we're expecting those to come from AI workloads. But AI workloads don't just use our AI services. They use data services and they use other things. And so that combination, I think, looking on a competitive basis, we feel good about our execution, we feel good about taking share and we feel good about consistent trends. And so I feel good about that guide and what it says about where we are on share.

因此,我認為這種影響將持續到今年剩餘時間,我對此的看法沒有改變。當然,我認為關鍵部分始終是開始新的工作負載。在我們談論的規模上,能夠在我們的Azure業務中保持穩定,確實意味著我們將有大量新的工作負載開始。我們主要希望這些數據來自人工智慧工作負載。但是,人工智慧工作負載不僅僅使用我們的人工智慧服務。他們使用數據服務,也使用其他東西。因此,我認為,在競爭的基礎上,我們對自己的執行力感到滿意,對奪取市場份額感到滿意,對持續的趨勢感到滿意。因此,我對這本指南以及它所說的我們在共享中的位置感到很好。

Karl Keirstead

卡爾·基爾斯特德

Okay. Terrific. Thanks.

好吧。好極了。謝謝。

Brett Iversen

佈雷特·艾弗森

Thanks, Karl. Joe, next question, please.

謝謝,卡爾。Joe,請提出下一個問題。

Bradley Sills

布拉德利·希爾斯

Wonderful. Thanks so much. Very impressive to see the Office 365 commercial seat growth hanging in here in that double digit range. It's very impressive just given the scale of that business. We think of Office as having such a dominant market position. Curious, how you think about the -- where that seat is coming from and how many more of those seats are out there to go get?

精彩的。非常感謝。非常令人印象深刻的是,Office 365商業席位的增長保持在兩位數的範圍內。考慮到這項業務的規模,這是非常令人印象深刻的。我們認為Office擁有如此主導的市場地位。好奇的是,你是怎麼想的--那個座位是從哪裡來的,還有多少座位需要去買?

Amy Hood

艾米·胡德

Thanks for that question, and maybe I'll take that Satya if you -- if you want to add. In general, our seat growth has -- it does come from all segments, but with particular strength in small and mid-sized businesses, as well as what we call the frontline worker opportunity. And that has been, I would say, looking back a number of quarters where the majority of our seat growth has gone. And while obviously, it slowed a bit to your point, I think the fact that we're still able to add seats at this level speaks to the broadening nature of what Microsoft 365 needs.

謝謝你的問題,如果你--如果你想補充的話,也許我會接受那個薩蒂亞。總體而言,我們的席位增長--確實來自所有細分市場,但尤其是在中小型企業,以及我們所稱的一線工人機會。我要說的是,回顧過去幾個季度,我們的席位增長主要流向了哪裡。雖然很明顯,它的速度慢了一點,但我認為,我們仍然能夠在這個級別增加席位這一事實說明瞭微軟365所需要的擴大的本質。

It's more applicable to more people. And so I think many people have thought, oh my goodness, you've got a lot of customers already. And we look and say, how many people when you expand what Microsoft 365 means, whether it's the security or it means analytics or it means Teams, it means lots of things in an expanding definition. It applies to more types of workers. And frankly, the value is such, especially on the small business front, where it's to the point where I think people feel like it's a great way to spend even the spend money they have is -- this remains a pretty compelling offer.

它更適用於更多的人。所以我想很多人都在想,哦,天哪,你們已經有很多客戶了。我們看到並說,當你擴展Microsoft 365的含義時,有多少人,無論是安全、分析還是團隊,它在一個擴展的定義中意味著很多東西。它適用於更多類型的工人。坦率地說,它的價值是這樣的,特別是在小企業方面,我認為人們覺得這是一個很好的消費方式,即使他們擁有的錢--這仍然是一個相當有吸引力的提議。

Bradley Sills

布拉德利·希爾斯

Thank you.

謝謝。

Brett Iversen

佈雷特·艾弗森

Thanks, Brad. Joe, next question, please.

謝謝,布拉德。Joe,請提出下一個問題。

Brent Bracelin

布倫特·佈雷斯林

Thank you. Good afternoon. One thing that really stood out to me was the intelligent cloud segment operating margins. These came in, I think, at the highest level in six years, despite elevated AI investments. Was there a one-time tailwind here that helped? Or are you at the point where Azure has got economies of scale, where Microsoft could sustain high margins even with an ambitious AI investment cycle?

謝謝。下午好。有一件事真正讓我印象深刻,那就是智慧雲部門的運營利潤率。我認為,儘管人工智慧投資增加,但這一數位達到了6年來的最高水準。這裡有過一次順風嗎?還是說,Azure已經具備了規模經濟效應,即使在雄心勃勃的人工智慧投資週期中,微軟也可以維持高利潤率?

Amy Hood

艾米·胡德

You think -- thanks for that question. I think there are a couple things going on and I do -- I would say in particular, this was a very good leverage quarter in that segment. Number one, the Azure revenue growth and the stability we're seeing in it, absolutely is that help the operating leverage. The second component of that is in our core Azure business. The team continues to deliver thoughtful gross margin improvement across both technical decisions, software implementations. Our teams on the infrastructure build side have done really good work to deliver that, and so that's been helpful as well.

你覺得--謝謝你的問題。我認為有幾件事正在發生,我確實是這樣做的--我要特別說的是,在這一領域,這是一個非常好的槓桿季度。首先,Azure的收入增長和我們看到的穩定性,絕對有助於提高運營槓桿。第二個組成部分是我們的核心Azure業務。該團隊繼續在技術決策和軟體實施方面提供深思熟慮的毛利率改進。我們在基礎設施建設方面的團隊為實現這一目標做了非常好的工作,所以這也是有幫助的。

And then, of course, on operating expenses, there's been a good focus on continuing even within that segment, to make sure we're focusing that work on leading in the AI transition with Azure. And so you're right, even as we're investing in AI infrastructure, which will and should show up as revenue, it'll also show up in COGS and still deliver good margin. But this does have a slightly -- as I talked about earlier, easier comp in Q1 and Q2, given it was some of our highest growth operating expense quarters in our company's history a year ago.

當然,在運營成本方面,我們一直專注於在這一細分市場內繼續下去,以確保我們將工作重點放在引領Azure的人工智慧轉型上。所以你是對的,即使我們投資於人工智慧基礎設施,這將也應該顯示為收入,它也將顯示在COGS中,並仍然提供良好的利潤率。但正如我之前所說,這確實有一點--考慮到一年前是我們公司歷史上運營費用增長最快的幾個季度,第一季度和第二季度的比較容易一些。

Brent Bracelin

布倫特·佈雷斯林

Makes sense. Thank you.

合乎道理。謝謝。

Brett Iversen

佈雷特·艾弗森

Thanks, Brent. Joe, we have time for one last question.

謝謝,布倫特。Joe,我們還有最後一個問題。

Gregg Moskowitz

格雷格·莫斯科維茨

Okay. Thank you very much for taking the question. And maybe just a follow-up to what Brent was just asking about, but on the gross margin line. Amy, the Microsoft cloud gross margin is up 2 points year-over-year, excluding the useful life change, a little more improvement than we've seen in some time and some investors were worried that it might go in the other direction, given increased AI investments. And so, as you look forward, do you think that you could drive some continued gross margin improvement over the medium term and even as higher CapEx will filter into the model? Thanks.

好吧。非常感謝您回答這個問題。也許只是對布倫特原油剛才詢問的問題的後續行動,但在毛利率線上。艾米,不包括使用壽命的變化,微軟雲的毛利率同比增長了2個百分點,這比我們最近一段時間看到的改善要多一些,一些投資者擔心,鑑於人工智慧投資的增加,毛利率可能會朝著相反的方向發展。因此,在你展望未來的時候,你認為你是否可以在中期內推動毛利率持續改善,即使更高的資本支出將滲透到模式中?謝謝。

Amy Hood

艾米·胡德

Yeah. Let me break that into two components, because they're both important and it's a really good question, Gregg. On our core business, the core Azure business, the core Office 365, M365 business, Dynamics business, they're -- they continue to deliver gross margin year-over-year improvements in the core. And so that, like in other quarters has helped this quarter.

嗯。讓我把它分成兩個部分,因為它們都很重要,這是一個非常好的問題,格雷格。在我們的核心業務方面,核心Azure業務、核心Office 365、M365業務、Dynamic業務,他們--他們繼續在核心業務中實現毛利率同比增長。因此,與其他季度一樣,這一點對本季度有所幫助。

In addition, what Satya mentioned earlier in a question, and I just want to take every chance to reiterate it, if you have a consistent infrastructure from the platform all the way up through its layers, then every capital dollar we spend, if we optimize revenue against it, we will have great leverage, because wherever demand shows up in the layers, whether it's at the SaaS layer, whether it's at the infrastructure layer, whether it's for training workloads, we're able to quickly put our infrastructure to work generating revenue, or on our Bing workloads. I mean, I should have mentioned all the consumer workloads use the same frame.

此外,薩蒂亞在前面的問題中提到的,我只是想抓住每個機會重申一下,如果你有一個從平臺到其各個層的一致的基礎設施,那麼我們花費的每一筆資本,如果我們根據它優化收入,我們將擁有巨大的槓桿作用,因為無論需求出現在哪一層,無論是在SaaS層,無論是在基礎設施層,無論是用於培訓工作負載,我們都能夠快速將我們的基礎設施投入工作,以產生收入,或者在我們的Bing工作負載上。我的意思是,我應該提到所有的消費者工作負載使用相同的框架。

And so when you think about our investment in AI, yes, it will -- because we're committed to leading this wave and see demand, you will see that impact in COGS growth. But what we're committed to doing is making sure it's highly leveraged and making sure you see the same growth in revenue. And I think on occasion, you may see something pick up 1 or 2 points and the other one not quite get there, but the point is, it's going to be very well paired because of the choices we've made over the past, frankly, numerous years, to get to a point where that infrastructure is consistent.

因此,當你考慮我們對人工智慧的投資時,是的,它會的--因為我們致力於引領這股浪潮,看到需求,你會看到COGS增長的影響。但我們致力於做的是確保它的槓桿率很高,並確保你看到同樣的收入增長。我認為有時,你可能會看到一些東西上升了1到2個百分點,而另一個並沒有完全達到那個水準,但關鍵是,它將會非常好地配對,因為我們在過去的許多年裡做出了選擇,坦率地說,達到了基礎設施保持一致的地步。

Satya Nadella

薩蒂亞·納德拉

And I'll just add that it'll be very well paired at the company level. I realize all of you care a lot about each one of our segments and each one of our KPIs, and I do too, but at the end of the day, our stack and the way it works, the way we do our capital allocation, the way we think about even the optimization of the demand to utilization is across the entirety of all of our segments and all of our products.

我要補充的是,它將在公司層面上非常好地配對。我知道你們所有人都非常關心我們的每一個細分市場和我們的每一個關鍵績效指標,我也是如此,但歸根結底,我們的堆棧及其運作方式,我們進行資本配置的方式,甚至我們考慮需求到利用的優化方式,都涉及到我們所有細分市場和所有產品的整體。

Gregg Moskowitz

格雷格·莫斯科維茨

Very helpful. Thanks.

很有幫助。謝謝。

Brett Iversen

佈雷特·艾弗森

Thanks, Gregg. That wraps up the Q&A portion of today's earnings call. Thank you for join us today and we look-forward to speaking with all of you soon.

謝謝,格雷格。這就是今天財報電話會議的問答部分。感謝你們今天的參與,我們期待著很快與你們所有人交談。

Amy Hood

艾米·胡德

Thank you.

謝謝。

Satya Nadella

薩蒂亞·納德拉

Thank you.

謝謝。

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