Yunnan CopperLtd (SZSE:000878) Takes On Some Risk With Its Use Of Debt
Yunnan CopperLtd (SZSE:000878) Takes On Some Risk With Its Use Of Debt
Howard Marks put it nicely when he said that, rather than worrying about share price volatility, 'The possibility of permanent loss is the risk I worry about... and every practical investor I know worries about.' It's only natural to consider a company's balance sheet when you examine how risky it is, since debt is often involved when a business collapses. We note that Yunnan Copper Co.,Ltd (SZSE:000878) does have debt on its balance sheet. But the more important question is: how much risk is that debt creating?
霍華德·馬克斯說得好,他說的不是擔心股價的波動,而是 「永久損失的可能性是我擔心的風險... 也是我認識的每位實際投資者所擔心的風險。」當你檢查公司的資產負債表的風險時,考慮它的資產負債表是很自然的,因爲企業倒閉時通常會涉及債務。我們注意到,雲南銅業有限公司, Ltd(深圳證券交易所股票代碼:000878)的資產負債表上確實有債務。但更重要的問題是:這筆債務會帶來多大的風險?
When Is Debt A Problem?
債務何時會成爲問題?
Debt assists a business until the business has trouble paying it off, either with new capital or with free cash flow. If things get really bad, the lenders can take control of the business. However, a more frequent (but still costly) occurrence is where a company must issue shares at bargain-basement prices, permanently diluting shareholders, just to shore up its balance sheet. By replacing dilution, though, debt can be an extremely good tool for businesses that need capital to invest in growth at high rates of return. When we think about a company's use of debt, we first look at cash and debt together.
債務可以幫助企業,直到企業難以償還債務,無論是新資本還是自由現金流。如果情況變得非常糟糕,貸款人可以控制業務。但是,更頻繁(但仍然昂貴)的情況是,公司必須以低廉的價格發行股票,永久稀釋股東,以支撐其資產負債表。但是,通過取代稀釋,對於需要資本以高回報率投資增長的企業來說,債務可以成爲一個非常好的工具。當我們考慮公司使用債務時,我們首先將現金和債務放在一起考慮。
What Is Yunnan CopperLtd's Debt?
雲南銅業有限公司的債務是多少?
You can click the graphic below for the historical numbers, but it shows that as of June 2024 Yunnan CopperLtd had CN¥23.1b of debt, an increase on CN¥13.2b, over one year. However, because it has a cash reserve of CN¥8.61b, its net debt is less, at about CN¥14.5b.
你可以點擊下圖查看歷史數字,但它顯示,截至2024年6月,雲南銅業有限公司在一年內有231元人民幣的債務,比132元人民幣有所增加。但是,由於其現金儲備爲86.1元人民幣,其淨負債較少,約爲145元人民幣。
How Strong Is Yunnan CopperLtd's Balance Sheet?
雲南銅業有限公司的資產負債表有多強?
The latest balance sheet data shows that Yunnan CopperLtd had liabilities of CN¥25.5b due within a year, and liabilities of CN¥9.82b falling due after that. On the other hand, it had cash of CN¥8.61b and CN¥941.4m worth of receivables due within a year. So its liabilities outweigh the sum of its cash and (near-term) receivables by CN¥25.8b.
最新的資產負債表數據顯示,雲南銅業有限公司的負債爲255元人民幣,此後到期的負債爲98.2元人民幣。另一方面,它擁有86.1元人民幣的現金和價值94140萬加元的應收賬款,應收賬款將在一年內到期。因此,其負債超過其現金和(短期)應收賬款總額258元人民幣。
Given this deficit is actually higher than the company's market capitalization of CN¥21.8b, we think shareholders really should watch Yunnan CopperLtd's debt levels, like a parent watching their child ride a bike for the first time. Hypothetically, extremely heavy dilution would be required if the company were forced to pay down its liabilities by raising capital at the current share price.
鑑於這一赤字實際上高於該公司218元人民幣的市值,我們認爲股東們確實應該關注雲南銅業有限公司的債務水平,就像父母第一次看着孩子騎自行車一樣。假設,如果公司被迫通過按當前股價籌集資金來償還負債,則需要進行極其嚴重的稀釋。
In order to size up a company's debt relative to its earnings, we calculate its net debt divided by its earnings before interest, tax, depreciation, and amortization (EBITDA) and its earnings before interest and tax (EBIT) divided by its interest expense (its interest cover). Thus we consider debt relative to earnings both with and without depreciation and amortization expenses.
爲了擴大公司相對於收益的負債規模,我們計算其淨負債除以利息、稅項、折舊和攤銷前的收益(EBITDA),將其利息和稅前收益(EBIT)除以利息支出(利息保障)。因此,我們將債務與收益的關係考慮在內,包括和不包括折舊和攤銷費用。
Yunnan CopperLtd's net debt is 2.8 times its EBITDA, which is a significant but still reasonable amount of leverage. However, its interest coverage of 22.7 is very high, suggesting that the interest expense on the debt is currently quite low. Importantly Yunnan CopperLtd's EBIT was essentially flat over the last twelve months. We would prefer to see some earnings growth, because that always helps diminish debt. The balance sheet is clearly the area to focus on when you are analysing debt. But ultimately the future profitability of the business will decide if Yunnan CopperLtd can strengthen its balance sheet over time. So if you're focused on the future you can check out this free report showing analyst profit forecasts.
雲南銅業有限公司的淨負債是其息稅折舊攤銷前利潤的2.8倍,這是一個可觀但仍然合理的槓桿率。但是,其22.7的利息覆蓋率非常高,這表明債務的利息支出目前相當低。重要的是,雲南銅業有限公司的息稅前利潤在過去十二個月中基本持平。我們希望看到一定的收益增長,因爲這總是有助於減少債務。資產負債表顯然是分析債務時需要關注的領域。但最終,該業務的未來盈利能力將決定雲南銅業有限公司能否隨着時間的推移加強其資產負債表。因此,如果您專注於未來,可以查看這份顯示分析師利潤預測的免費報告。
Finally, while the tax-man may adore accounting profits, lenders only accept cold hard cash. So it's worth checking how much of that EBIT is backed by free cash flow. Over the last three years, Yunnan CopperLtd actually produced more free cash flow than EBIT. That sort of strong cash generation warms our hearts like a puppy in a bumblebee suit.
最後,儘管稅務人員可能喜歡會計利潤,但貸款人只接受冷硬現金。因此,值得檢查一下該息稅前利潤中有多少是由自由現金流支持的。在過去的三年中,雲南銅業有限公司產生的自由現金流實際上超過了息稅前利潤。這種強勁的現金產生像穿着大黃蜂套裝的小狗一樣溫暖着我們的心。
Our View
我們的觀點
While Yunnan CopperLtd's level of total liabilities has us nervous. For example, its interest cover and conversion of EBIT to free cash flow give us some confidence in its ability to manage its debt. Looking at all the angles mentioned above, it does seem to us that Yunnan CopperLtd is a somewhat risky investment as a result of its debt. That's not necessarily a bad thing, since leverage can boost returns on equity, but it is something to be aware of. There's no doubt that we learn most about debt from the balance sheet. But ultimately, every company can contain risks that exist outside of the balance sheet. For example Yunnan CopperLtd has 2 warning signs (and 1 which is a bit concerning) we think you should know about.
而云南銅業有限公司的總負債水平卻讓我們感到緊張。例如,它的利息保障以及將息稅前利潤轉換爲自由現金流使我們對其管理債務的能力有一定的信心。從上面提到的所有角度來看,在我們看來,由於其債務,雲南銅業有限公司確實是一項風險較大的投資。這不一定是一件壞事,因爲槓桿可以提高股本回報率,但這是需要注意的事情。毫無疑問,我們從資產負債表中學到的關於債務的知識最多。但歸根結底,每家公司都可以控制資產負債表之外存在的風險。例如,Yunnan CopperLtd 有 2 個警告標誌(還有一個有點令人擔憂),我們認爲你應該知道。
At the end of the day, it's often better to focus on companies that are free from net debt. You can access our special list of such companies (all with a track record of profit growth). It's free.
歸根結底,通常最好將注意力集中在沒有淨負債的公司身上。您可以訪問我們的此類公司的特別名單(所有公司都有利潤增長記錄)。它是免費的。
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