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We Think MTR (HKG:66) Is Taking Some Risk With Its Debt

We Think MTR (HKG:66) Is Taking Some Risk With Its Debt

我们认为港铁(HKG:66)在债务方面承担了一些风险
Simply Wall St ·  2024/11/16 06:33

Legendary fund manager Li Lu (who Charlie Munger backed) once said, 'The biggest investment risk is not the volatility of prices, but whether you will suffer a permanent loss of capital.' So it might be obvious that you need to consider debt, when you think about how risky any given stock is, because too much debt can sink a company. As with many other companies MTR Corporation Limited (HKG:66) makes use of debt. But should shareholders be worried about its use of debt?

传奇基金经理李禄(查理·芒格支持过的人)曾说过:“最大的投资风险不是价格的波动,而是你是否会遭受资本的永久性损失。”因此,在考虑任何股票的风险时,显而易见的是你需要考虑债务,因为过多的债务可能会沉没一家公司。与许多其他公司一样,mtr corp n4709也使用了债务。但是,股东应该担心其债务的使用吗?

When Is Debt Dangerous?

债务何时有危险?

Debt is a tool to help businesses grow, but if a business is incapable of paying off its lenders, then it exists at their mercy. Part and parcel of capitalism is the process of 'creative destruction' where failed businesses are mercilessly liquidated by their bankers. However, a more common (but still painful) scenario is that it has to raise new equity capital at a low price, thus permanently diluting shareholders. Of course, plenty of companies use debt to fund growth, without any negative consequences. The first thing to do when considering how much debt a business uses is to look at its cash and debt together.

债务是帮助企业成长的工具,但如果企业无法偿还债权人的债务,那么它将处于债权人的慈悲之下。资本主义的一部分是“创造性破坏”过程,即失败的企业被银行无情清算。然而,更常见(但仍然痛苦的)情况是企业不得不以低价发行新股权资本,从而永久稀释股东的权益。当然,许多公司使用债务来资助增长,而没有任何负面后果。在考虑企业使用多少债务时,首先要看其现金和债务的总体情况。

What Is MTR's Net Debt?

mtr的净债务是多少?

You can click the graphic below for the historical numbers, but it shows that as of June 2024 MTR had HK$70.7b of debt, an increase on HK$53.5b, over one year. However, it also had HK$24.8b in cash, and so its net debt is HK$45.9b.

您可以点击下方的图形查看历史数据,但它显示截至2024年6月,mtr的债务为707亿港元,比535亿港元增加了超过一年。然而,它也有248亿港元的现金,因此其净债务为459亿港元。

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SEHK:66 Debt to Equity History November 15th 2024
SEHK:66 债务与股本历史 2024年11月15日

How Strong Is MTR's Balance Sheet?

mtr corp n4709的资产负债表有多强?

The latest balance sheet data shows that MTR had liabilities of HK$28.7b due within a year, and liabilities of HK$153.3b falling due after that. Offsetting this, it had HK$24.8b in cash and HK$20.6b in receivables that were due within 12 months. So its liabilities total HK$136.6b more than the combination of its cash and short-term receivables.

最新的资产负债表数据显示,mtr corp n4709在一年内有287亿港元的负债,以及1533亿港元的长期负债。与此相抵消,它有248亿港元的现金和206亿港元的应收款项在12个月内到期。因此,它的负债总额比其现金和短期应收款项的总和多1366亿港元。

This is a mountain of leverage even relative to its gargantuan market capitalization of HK$169.6b. Should its lenders demand that it shore up the balance sheet, shareholders would likely face severe dilution.

即使相对于其庞大的市场资本化1696亿港元,这也是一笔巨额杠杆。如果其贷款方要求其加强资产负债表,股东可能面临严重稀释。

We use two main ratios to inform us about debt levels relative to earnings. The first is net debt divided by earnings before interest, tax, depreciation, and amortization (EBITDA), while the second is how many times its earnings before interest and tax (EBIT) covers its interest expense (or its interest cover, for short). The advantage of this approach is that we take into account both the absolute quantum of debt (with net debt to EBITDA) and the actual interest expenses associated with that debt (with its interest cover ratio).

我们使用两个主要比率来了解债务相对于收入的水平。首先是净债务除以利息、税项、折旧和摊销前利润(EBITDA),而第二个是其税前利润(EBIT)可以覆盖利息支出的倍数(或简称为利息覆盖率)。 这种方法的优势在于我们既考虑了债务的绝对量(净债务与EBITDA)又考虑了与该债务相关的实际利息支出(利息覆盖比)。

MTR has a debt to EBITDA ratio of 2.6, which signals significant debt, but is still pretty reasonable for most types of business. However, its interest coverage of 12.4 is very high, suggesting that the interest expense on the debt is currently quite low. It is well worth noting that MTR's EBIT shot up like bamboo after rain, gaining 64% in the last twelve months. That'll make it easier to manage its debt. When analysing debt levels, the balance sheet is the obvious place to start. But it is future earnings, more than anything, that will determine MTR's ability to maintain a healthy balance sheet going forward. So if you're focused on the future you can check out this free report showing analyst profit forecasts.

mtr corp n4709的债务与EBITDA比率为2.6,表明负债很高,但对于大多数类型的业务来说仍然相当合理。然而,其利息覆盖率为12.4,非常高,这表明债务的利息支出当前相对较低。值得注意的是,mtr corp n4709的EBIT在过去十二个月中如雨后竹笋般激增,增长了64%。这将使其更容易管理负债。在分析债务水平时,资产负债表是显而易见的起点。但未来收益,尤其是,将决定mtr corp n4709保持健康资产负债表的能力。因此,如果你关注未来,可以查看这份免费的报告,展示分析师的利润预测。

But our final consideration is also important, because a company cannot pay debt with paper profits; it needs cold hard cash. So we always check how much of that EBIT is translated into free cash flow. Over the last three years, MTR saw substantial negative free cash flow, in total. While investors are no doubt expecting a reversal of that situation in due course, it clearly does mean its use of debt is more risky.

但我们最后的考虑也很重要,因为公司不能用纸面利润来偿还债务;它需要冷硬的现金。因此,我们总是检查多少EBIT转化为自由现金流。在过去三年中,mtr corp n4709出现了可观的负自由现金流。尽管投资者无疑期望在适当时候 reversing that situation,但这显然意味着其使用债务的风险更高。

Our View

我们的观点

We feel some trepidation about MTR's difficulty conversion of EBIT to free cash flow, but we've got positives to focus on, too. To wit both its interest cover and EBIT growth rate were encouraging signs. Looking at all the angles mentioned above, it does seem to us that MTR is a somewhat risky investment as a result of its debt. Not all risk is bad, as it can boost share price returns if it pays off, but this debt risk is worth keeping in mind. When analysing debt levels, the balance sheet is the obvious place to start. However, not all investment risk resides within the balance sheet - far from it. We've identified 1 warning sign with MTR , and understanding them should be part of your investment process.

我们对mtr corp n4709将EBIT转换为自由现金流的难度感到一些担忧,但我们也有积极的方面可以关注。具体而言,它的利息覆盖率和EBIT增长率都是令人鼓舞的迹象。考虑到以上提到的所有角度,我们认为由于其债务,mtr corp n4709是一项有些风险的投资。并不是所有的风险都是坏事,如果成功,它可以提升股票价格回报,但要牢记这一债务风险。在分析债务水平时,资产负债表显然是起点。然而,并不是所有的投资风险都存在于资产负债表中,远非如此。我们已经发现了mtr corp n4709的1个警示信号,理解它们应该是你投资过程的一部分。

At the end of the day, it's often better to focus on companies that are free from net debt. You can access our special list of such companies (all with a track record of profit growth). It's free.

每天结束时,通常更好地关注那些没有净债务的公司。您可以查看我们特别名单上的这些公司(所有这些公司都有盈利增长记录)。这是免费的。

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