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Volatility Shares 2x Ether ETF Stock Discussion

arctheshark

Oct 1 13:47

I like the market when it’s down

Like this then I can print more money, no? 😭 have always been on the short side so knowing what inverse etfs to buy has been useful for these few days but daaaang once it reverses I do find myself scratching head hahaha
On Friday, went on a binge etf spree cus we got that capital to blow anw SO
-got heavy on $ProShares UltraPro Short QQQ ETF (SQQQ.US)$ i think i am too heavy here
-bought stuff to brace a volatile market $Volatility Shares 2x Ether ETF (ETHU.US)$
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10baggerbamm

Sep 23 04:02

$Volatility Shares 2x Ether ETF (ETHU.US)$ let's go baby...

ArtemisX : still holding on? sentiment on eth has been quite weak this week

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10baggerbamm OP ArtemisX : Rome wasn't built in a day when Bitcoin goes to 70,000 this leveraged ETF will be $12 when Bitcoin goes to 80,000 it'll be 22-25 probably even higher than that so I'm not worried. if it's weak tomorrow I'll be selling October puts probably like 100 contracts or 200 contracts and collecting the premium

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ArtemisX 10baggerbamm OP : ah… i have so much to learn on hedging through puts

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10baggerbamm OP ArtemisX : let's suppose the stock is at $12 and you say I want to buy it at 10:00 you can put a limit order in and if it doesn't hit it nothing happens alternatively you sell a 10 put every contract that you sell is 100 shares 10 contracts is the same as a thousand shares so you need to have the cash in your account equal to the number of contracts that you sold if it's converted to stock or you need to have the buying power I would discourage you from using margin. so if you sell a 10 put depending upon how long you go out it could be weekly expiration or they could have monthly expiration different securities at different time frames but let's suppose you go out two weeks maybe it's 50 cents so you sell 10 contracts you collect $500 and now someone else has the option of putting that stock to you on expiration date if it closes at $10 or less in which case your cost basis would be the price 10 minus the premium you got 50 cents so your cost basis is $9.50.. so selling puts and understanding when is a very good way to generate income and lower your cost basis if you own it out right while you're waiting for the stock to move higher or even if it's selling off a little bit rather than taking a stop loss and getting stopped out you sell a put you collect the premium you know $2 $3 below the market whatever it is you're lowering your cost basis that way

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ArtemisX 10baggerbamm OP : thanks! that’s very helpful, will certainly look more into it.

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10baggerbamm

Sep 20 07:31

$Volatility Shares 2x Ether ETF (ETHU.US)$ I need this to close today at $4.99. I don't have a large enough position and I've sold puts at a $5 strike a lot of puts. 300 contracts.

ArtemisX : something look amiss in this etf? supposed to x2 the eth performance, but now comparing to the non leverage etf, is going down instead? ??

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10baggerbamm OP ArtemisX : there's daily factors that come into play on a very short-term basis. they can trade at a discount or premium to net asset value that's number one number two it can trade strictly on supply and demand that will move the ETF so that it's not necessarily in direct correlation to ethereum itself. and you'll see this the next day for example aetherium might be up at the ETF is down 1/8 or vice versa . so you have to take a larger picture and step back and see where it potentially is going in the next 1 month 3 months 6 months. if you get a reversion to the mean or what some people call Fibonacci retracement. you have a significant upside potential here coming. the same story for aetherium today holds true what it did back earlier this year when the ETFs were approved and began trading many of them. it's just falling out of favor and a lot of the money that was in exchange traded funds whether it's Bitcoin or ethereum went into Nvidia went into other tech stocks were liquidated because of margin calls for example when the dollar yen went haywire which started July 5th through August 11th causing a major sell-off in the broader base marketplace. so the daily up eighth down 1/8 by own weakness settlement below the market and don't chase because you're going to have back and filling throughout the day

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ArtemisX 10baggerbamm OP : i see, just wait for the big break and this will be peanuts when looking back might wait awhile. but just parking here for now

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10baggerbamm OP ArtemisX : oh I think it's going much higher than the $10 Fibonacci retracement I think you'll see mid twenties in a year's time frame when Trump's elected Bitcoin will be 70 plus thousand dollars the minute November 6th when he's announced winner and when he's inaugurated Bitcoin will be 80 plus $1,000 and then when Trump builds a reserve a Bitcoin like he said he was going to do like a strategic oil reserve and gold reserve bitcoins going to 100 and aetherium is off to the races it's going to be moving the entire time and since ethereum fell further than Bitcoin in the most recent sell-off there's a lot more upside in it

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10baggerbamm

Sep 19 11:31

$Volatility Shares 2x Ether ETF (ETHU.US)$ if you're looking at it today you're thinking damn it I missed it will take a look at this chart because a basic retracement of 50% from the most recent sell-off gives you 100% return.

10baggerbamm

Sep 19 07:52

$Volatility Shares 2x Ether ETF (ETHU.US)$ here's an idea it may appeal to some and that's the only reason why I'm putting it out there. when you have a gap up which is what today is across the board a lot of people are going to buy the rally right on the open I assure you there will be profit taking and the stocks will trade down and then the question is will they build a base and trade higher through the opening price and they probably will.. maybe you didn't buy etherium yesterday or the day b...

10baggerbamm

Sep 19 06:44

$Volatility Shares 2x Ether ETF (ETHU.US)$ hopefully some people were able to nibble at this ETF in the past couple of days. it will rally lock step with Bitcoin and the fact that it's over $5 today it really means nothing in the big picture. the downside is still four bucks and you saw what happened from earlier this week when I mentioned it it was 4.90 it dropped down to 4.60. this movement on a matter of percentage is large it's like a $49 stock falling to $46 however relative to where the big...

10baggerbamm

Sep 17 09:24

$Volatility Shares 2x Ether ETF (ETHU.US)$ if you have 6 months to one year I would strongly encourage you taking a initial position in this ETF. I can guarantee you one thing the next 10 points will be higher not lower. everybody has turned their back on ethereum but you have to ask yourself what has changed money is chasing other movement other areas where there's velocity where the dollar becomes a dollar 10 a dollar 20 a dollar 30 very quickly. it's going to rotate back to ethereum and it wil...

TinkerB3ll

Jun 11 11:25

Just for sharing, for those keen on playing BTC or ETH (can consider these leveraged ETFs)
These are for $Ethereum (ETH.CC)$
$ProShares Ether ETF (EETH.US)$ $ProShares Ultra Ether ETF (ETHT.US)$ $ProShares UltraShort Ether ETF (ETHD.US)$ $Volatility Shares 2x Ether ETF (ETHU.US)$
while these are for $Bitcoin (BTC.CC)$
$ProShares UltraShort Bitcoin ETF (SBIT.US)$ $ProShares Ultra Bitcoin ETF (BITU.US)$ $ $2x Bitcoin Strategy ETF (BITX.US)$ $T-Rex 2X Inverse Bitcoin Daily Target ETF (BTCZ.US)$ $T-Rex 2X Long Bitcoin Daily Target ETF (BTCL.US)$
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