Defiance Daily Target 2X Long MSTR ETF Stock Discussion

• 离火股运 : brilliant, most holders are not educated about decay

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• 10baggerbamm 离火股运 : you can't see the decay I've had this discussion with so many people it's ridiculous I've held leverage ETFs some of them over a year and the only one that had decay was nvdu in the month from July to August and that's because when Nvidia common stock was $131 nvdu was the same price and then every uptick of the common The leverage ETF went up twice as much. when we had the Japanese trade unwinding from July to August 11th Nvidia got crushed all of the options in the ETF went to zero they couldn't even roll them from one month to the next so they had to reestablish new positions now there's a $10 difference between the common stock and The leverage ETF. everybody that's out there that talks about decay all they are a bunch of parrots repeating what somebody else said most of them have never owned the ETFs let alone held them for any period and I've been in virtually every one some of them over a year. call everybody else talk shit I talk from first hand experience. and I'm telling you as a matter of fact you don't know on a daily basis what the decay is on a weekly basis or on a monthly because the The leverage ETF can trade at a premium parity or a discount to net asset value at any given time throughout the day or when they close.

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• TheOracleOfBroMaha : Was a great article I stuffed it somewhere, but basically a few ETFs have a terrible time finding enough derivatives to keep up & this is one… on top of that MSTR (& this ETF are both traded 24 hrs… (Robinhood BTW BagMan… )

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• 10baggerbamm TheOracleOfBroMaha : I read it I know exactly what you're referring to

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• TheOracleOfBroMaha : I posted on one of your threads maybe. Was telling. Warning of “dangers” but really just explaining why some have a tough time keeping their mission!

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• 射手老人 : I gave up on this... moving up and down so fast..

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• 102514703 : Continuously selling stocks, not being short sold, but being sold by the management themselves, with no buyers, waiting to die.

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• TechWhiz : mstr price weak because saylor moon could be selling now.  He got another usd12bn atm to use.
  think he wants to quickly get as many btc as possible using atm before Jan 20.
  after that, he can issue more debt as his ratio is 25% debt against btc holdings.  let's say he gets to 500k btc which is  doable,  then if btc goes above 100k  , he will have 50bn x 25%  = 12.5bn capacity for debt.
  currently about 4bn  so can issue about 8bn debt.
  21/21 could be done by end 2025.  wow

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• 102 : I feel sorry for you guys getting used like that. Keep throwing in money for sailor man.

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• 10baggerbamm : that's not why it fell it fell because there was a short seller report if you go back and look at the peak of the stock a little over a week and a half ago you'll see a short seller report that broke the back of all the momentum that was into the stock. historically microstrategies Bitcoin holdings traded about 2X when the stock was running it traded an excessive 4X. that's like walking up to somebody and go hey look I got Bitcoin in my wallet it's $96,000 how about paying me $370,000 for it and it's a deal. I know this discounts what Michael Saylor is doing by selling the volatility every day I get that and I understand he's making $500 million dollars a week when Bitcoin was $99,000.

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• 10baggerbamm : pt 2
  I listen to the interview and I get that he's making 10 to one on his money on the convertible preferred that are sold in the past week and a half and that even if Bitcoin falls to 70,000 he still makes two to one. the problem is momentum is broken and it's going to take a significant movement to the upside of Bitcoin well and excess of 100,000 like 110 115 to trigger another rally even remotely close to the old highs it's going to require people to be looking forward and going we crossed 100 no problem now 200 is in the cards. however I will issue this word of caution. Trump contradicted himself. he came out over the weekend and said that brick countries will not abandon the US dollar that they must continue doing business in the US dollar . they cannot create their own new currency to do business in that new currency incidentally is backed 40% by Bitcoin that's what brick countries wanted to do. so that's the first contradiction because Trump backs Bitcoin. the second contradiction is if Trump creates a strategic reserve for Bitcoin in the United States that's an alternative to the US dollar. so now he has put himself behind the eight ball because if he creates a strategic reserve bad in effect is an alternative to the US dollar which is Bitcoin. but in the same breath he's prohibiting brick countries from abandoning the US dollar so that they don't buy and sell oil in their currency and not the Petro dollar.

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• HMS Victorious OP : Thinking perhaps when MACD on the 4 hour turns red I stop buying back in - still green.

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• HMS Victorious OP : Heiken Ashi candles - 4 hourly. MACD below.

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• 12345678txy : hi should I sell mstx to cut losses or hold them until rebound? any chance to rebound to $135?

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• RiotMaraMan 12345678txy : Since you asked....that means you are not ready to daytrade to recover losses. So just hold till it recover.

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• HMS Victorious : His wife’s a bitcoiner. Nice operation.

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